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Feb
06
2013
The Future of Leggo
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A while back I wrote a few blog posts on the Poker Training Industry[1]. Most of you could probably feel the unrest in the tone of my voice. In a post Black Friday poker world, the status quo for Leggo (and similarly modeled poker training) wasn’t practical—beyond that, it wasn’t feasible.

I’ve owned Leggo for over three years now and been part of the project since day one over five years ago. Over this time there were some ups and downs, but I’m very confident in the quality we put out. I try hard to be objective, and I believe there were stretches when we were the best. Whenever I see someone give props to myself or Leggo on 2+2 or Twitter or Facebook, I'm thrilled they appreciate the content.

I’m often asked (or I was, back when I played a bit more poker) if I’m glad that I started to make training videos. The truth is that I have no idea if it was +EV for my poker career. Attempting to quantify such a thing would be feeble—I’m sure revealing as much as I did hurt my winrate at times, I’m sure making poker videos has gained me some amount of moderate fame that I wouldn't have otherwise, I’m sure I stayed a bit sharper with the responsibility to explain the plays I was making. I’m also sure I had a lot of fun.

[2]What some of you may be able to tell from watching my videos is that I’m a natural. This may sound a little like bragging, this may even technically be bragging, but it is also fact: oftentimes I will be rambling at a thousand words a minute about a topic in a poker video, deep in a debate with myself about the merits of checking back the flop and how my opponent will react to various turn and river combinations, and I’ll also be asking myself Hmm... What do I want for dinner? [3] I’d like to think my videos informed, incited, and entertained (not necessarily in that order), so I supposed the Utilitarian way to look at things would be that they were +EV for the poker community as a whole. Sounds like a win to me, and it’s more fun when you win! [4]

Most of all I want to thank a bunch of people: Matt and Vitas [5], for working hard when everyone else was hardly working; everyone who I became friends with or enhanced my relationship through Leggo (Ashton, Chewy, Dan, Ben most notably); everyone who ever made a video, even those with very short stays who made revealing videos for much less than their hourly (Jimmie, Rich, Ashton, Ben[6]); especially those who turned in videos early and often and made my job so much easier; and of course, any coaches whose wife made me dinner—the best way to get into my “thank you paragraph” is through my stomach, of course.

If this sounds like the end of an era it might be, but it’s the beginning of something better. I no longer own Leggo, I sold it to Phil Ivey. In the summer we will launch Ivey League[7], a training site that is more comprehensive than Leggo was ever able to be. I want to keep the same mission Leggo has always had at the core, but expand our ability to educate on Live Tournaments, PLO, and even Mixed Games. The additional resources Ivey Poker offers will make this all possible.

This probably sounds far fetched to all of you. After spending time with Phil recently, I can assure you that his level of excitement for this project is very high [8]. He sees an opportunity to make a comprehensive poker network with his name attached and he personally prioritized training [9]. What I’m trying to say is: today, a social poker game; tomorrow, the world!

Over the coming months I will keep a blog about the development of Ivey League. It’s imperative that we get as much input as possible from you, our members (current and future), about what you want from the site. To wrap things up, I’ll do a quick Q and A with myself about the future of Leggo and what’ll happen going forward. Congratulations for reading this far, you sir [10] are a gentlemen and a scholar.

Q: Is Phil Ivey really going to make poker training videos?
A: He already has.

Q: What happens now?
A: Leggo will exist until Ivey League is operational (a few months, best guess). We will begin to infuse some pros from Ivey League into our monthly lineup.

Q: Will Leggo pros continue to make videos for Ivey League?
A: Likely. We’re hoping to move some of our most popular producers over to Ivey League, but it’s likely the roster will get trimmed. Your voice will be heard on this one, speak up if there are producers you feel strongly about, especially low and mid stakes guys.

Q: What kind of training videos will we expect to see?
A: A wide variety. For now you’ll mostly see hand history review, theory, math, and conversational videos (dual videos or interview style). I expect there will be a few kinks to iron out, but we’ve got a lot of awesome options.

Q: Will you continue to make training videos?
A: Thanks for asking, I’m flattered. I will, but I’d like to cut back my production a bit since I’ve been making 2+ a month for years (also since I’m playing less poker). I think I might be good in some dual videos interviewing players better than myself (although admittedly my interviewing skills are marginal at the moment, I’m sure I can get better).

Q: What will happen to our current Leggo subscriptions?
A: All Leggo subscription obligations will be filled appropriately (which may include even better value from Ivey League).

Q: Will Ivey League be $30 a month?
A: Definitely not. We’ll continue to take your input on our business model but ultimately you can expect to see tiered pricing and possibly even a la carte videos.

[1] Part 1, Part 2
[2] This paragraph is going to be incredibly masturbatory. I’ve become a lot more humble over the years (but I guess at various points there was no way to become less humble), but this is my good-bye to Leggo, let me have my fun, damnit.
[3] The answer is always Chipotle.
[4] Trademark: Ivey Poker.
[5] Those two names listed alphabetically, God forbid one of them think I was showing a little favoritism toward the other.
[6] That includes boywonder (bet you haven’t heard that name in a while!), 86 (yes, there are so many Bens in poker we’ve shortened this one to just 86, especially with a last name that is dicey to pronounce), and Sauce (who I am perhaps most thankful to, for being there until the end, for wanting to give back for the sake of giving back—I’d be shocked if a better poker mind exists).
[7] It took Chewy weeks to figure out the cleverness of this name. In other news, it may or may not be 500,000 miles from Las Vegas to Florida.
[8] As excited as Phil gets anyway. I think I saw him smirk, once.
[9] My theory is that he just wants to make a bunch of people good enough to play with him—but he knows that no amount of training would make them good enough to beat him, of course.
[10] Or ma’am.

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02-06-2013
Zaza is offline Zaza
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boooommmm!
02-06-2013
TheStudent is offline TheStudent
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Thanks a lot for everything! Gonna miss leggo
02-06-2013
klink10k is offline klink10k
waaaaaat sick
02-06-2013
heAdstroMan is offline heAdstroMan
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good man. well played. my leggo hoody will be forever cherished!
02-06-2013
aejones is offline aejones
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leggo hoodies are now very hot commodities-- antiques, basically
02-06-2013
fuser1986 is offline fuser1986
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Sweet! I will always rep LP! But look forward to the future!
02-06-2013
robbyd86 is offline robbyd86
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I already have plans to frame my Leggo T-shirt and enshrine it forever.... the hoody is too comfy not to wear
02-06-2013
prohunt is offline prohunt
keep d2themfi doing hunl vids and mathematical analysis IMO
02-07-2013
aejones is offline aejones
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prohunt, a top priority
02-07-2013
whorunthis is offline whorunthis
Wow! Feeling a bit of nostalgia already.
02-07-2013
limpshove is online now limpshove
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Remember when the games were still reasonable, in the pre Ivey era? When aejones and the_end were still making videos, that shorty was making chess videos... Sure their website wasn't as shiny as some of the other ones out there but with Leggo it was all about the content mann!! Ahh yeah, those were the days man..

02-07-2013
apostadorfurtivo is online now apostadorfurtivo
Ohhh I'm really going to miss Leggo!
First I want to begin by thanking all of leggo coaches and all the members who contributed to the site because I feel that much of the success I've had as a poker player is due to what I learned on this site.
In terms of coaches who have had more impact on my learning were Aaron, Ben86, Shoota, The_End, Irishman07, Harangutang, Grogheadflow and Zazano. There were many more who I learned something but those were the coaches that most influenced the way I think about the game and I wish they can keep making videos for Ivey League.
I also want to thank Matt Probability that despite not keep in regular contact with him whenever I needed help was super helpful and friendly.
You may find it strange but when reading this post from Aaron felt almost like when someone loses a loved one because following news from leggo was part of my daily routine. But such is life, and in this case it seems things can become even better so I'm looking foward for this new Ivey project and I wish its the beginning of an era even better!
And yeah Aaron you can brag as much as you want because your work at this site has not been less than excellent and nobody is as good as you are producing videos. Thanks for all great moments and hope its not a goodbye but a see you later!
02-07-2013
desire is offline desire
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good shit, happy to have been a part of this community and hope it continues, just in a slightly different form
02-07-2013
TheStudent is offline TheStudent
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''You may find it strange but when reading this post from Aaron felt almost like when someone loses a loved one because following news from leggo was part of my daily routine''

Same here.
02-07-2013
kennell9 is offline kennell9
Does this mean Phil is hosting the party in Vegas this year?
02-07-2013
aejones is offline aejones
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Does this mean Phil is hosting the party in Vegas this year?
god i hope so
02-07-2013
WhiteXmas is offline WhiteXmas
Have you seen any of Ivey's videos yet?
02-07-2013
TwoSHAE is offline TwoSHAE
Good luck Aaron, seems like a wise move on your part
02-07-2013
dudu is offline dudu
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even though I havn't been playing or posting much over the last year, I'm still gutted about this, leggo was a simply awesome community, with some awesome vids, matt and vitas were the schdizzle at running the site- will miss lego totally, top quality vids, support and forum chat
02-08-2013
Rolling chances is offline Rolling chances
A TOP JOB.. best site out there and its been an honour learning from you all. From watching Luckychewy making it deep in the main event in 09 to Aarons recent videos on zoom its just been a legacy that ive been proud to be a part of even if only from a spectators point of view.

just thought id get my two bobs worth out there thank you all for serving as a great community for me to better myself in many ways not just poker!
02-08-2013
Laser Show is offline Laser Show
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You are a natural at making videos. I still remember dicking around w/ Cardrunner's a bit and finding training videos pretty tedious. Even though I didn't know who you were, I found your vid's really entertaining and informative when Leggo launched. It helped my game at the time a lot to dive in.

All these years later, online options are pretty much dogshit for Americans, but my interest has been piqued by runitonce and what you're doing w/ Ivey. I may make time for poker theory again. GL and congrats.
02-10-2013
salfi123 is offline salfi123
The end of leggo
02-12-2013
gungho is offline gungho
What will happen to the library of current Leggo content?
02-12-2013
T-Rex is offline T-Rex
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What will happen to the library of current Leggo content?
this.

and,
Do you guys plan to do some kind of refund to people who have running leggo subscription? Personally i recently renewed my yearly subscription and now leggo is closing.
02-12-2013
bpran is offline bpran
Leggo is not closing, only change name and owner.
02-12-2013
not2hot is offline not2hot
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even though I havn't been playing or posting much over the last year, I'm still gutted about this, leggo was a simply awesome community, with some awesome vids, matt and vitas were the schdizzle at running the site- will miss lego totally, top quality vids, support and forum chat
I feel the same way^
02-12-2013
Heyway is offline Heyway
I would love to still be able to watch curtains playing chess on the new site. Not sure how Ivey feels about that though.

Leggo Coach Mythrilfox

02-12-2013
Skr8Flush is offline Skr8Flush
I'm ignorant as to whether or not mythrilfox is even interested in producing more poker content right now but I would like to speak up and give him some kudos either way. I think he's been one of the best low-stakes coaches on Leggo throughout the site's history and in my opinion still deserves a coaching spot with Leggo if he were to be so inclined. I've known the guy for many years and he's always been helpful in his videos and generous in providing one-on-one hand analysis and help over instant message.

Specifically, I remember that I really gleaned a lot of good information from his 3-betting PowerPoint videos ...and his sweat sessions were also good.

Just my 2-cents.
02-13-2013
RubMyBeerBelly is offline RubMyBeerBelly
I just became a Leggo member and subscriber 2 months ago. I haven't had enough time to dig into all your content, but got to say that I'm impressed from what I've seen so far. The coaches here truly are masters of their craft, and the community seems really interested in helping eachother, not only in poker, but in life. I play 100nl 6max. Want to put my 2 cents in for the coaching videos I have seen. Aaron, Zaza, and Mr. Min-5Bet-Bluff Adam001 make some of the best 6max content I've ever seen. I'm also starting on d2themfi's CREV vids, and so far it's really good. Anyways, good luck Aaron, and thanks for all you've done for the poker community!
03-09-2013
Mr Papagiorgio is offline Mr Papagiorgio
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Wow, I feel like the cops just showed up to shut down the party...
(black friday flash-backs!)

I never thought Aaron would play the role of the a-hole DJ that ends the night telling people "you don't have to go home...but you can't stay here". Then again, how would you ever get into that chick's bedroom if you just stayed at the club?

Are we really ready to go out into the real world on our own? (Maybe Phil just wants to cut down on the number of guys with skills coming out of this place ?)

So goodbye and good luck to this hodge-podge rag-tailed group of guys that somehow feel like friends even if they have no idea who the f*k I am. I appreciated all the poker advice and insight on life from around the globe. None of the other sites ever came close to providing the same kind of safe hide-a-way; where poker was treated as a way of life and not just a place to inflate ones ego and/or put people down.

To those of you I have met in person - thanks for taking the time to just say "hey" and provide inspiration to keep working on making my game better.

Cheers to all...

kevin
 
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