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boywonder

Mar
15
2010
If you thought I made my money shortstacking...
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As a lot of you guys know, there were some NVG threads about me a while back, and if anyone ever got the impression that I made my money shortstacking, I just discovered a new feature in Holdem Manager due to the latest Stox-trader scandal that I wish I knew about back then. I felt very unfairly judged, to say the least, and I am only human. The feature is being able to sort your results by stack size. Doing that reveals some interesting things, and should end all speculation on the shortstacking at least;



Out of 712 802 hands, I have 19 456 where I play with less than a 50 bb stack. Also, I am down at the rate of 5.32 bb/100 playing with that stack size. I would love for the people who accused me of being a professional shortstacker at the time to come out and repeat their claims. As always, people in the forums and it seems poker players in general want to believe the worst about people, facts validated or not.

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03-15-2010
coachgp is offline coachgp
janters gonna jante
03-16-2010
Nicolak is online now Nicolak
Strong...been reading some of the NVG threads about you, and most did seem to be unjustifiably critical about you...way to set it str8
03-16-2010
dc_playa is offline dc_playa
I thought everyone thought you were a bum hunter, not short stacker.
03-16-2010
bigLEOser is offline bigLEOser
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i think they said shortstacking bumhunter. but dont give a shit about what they say or think ben. you play poker for a good living plus your a coach on a good website. compared to those wannabes youve got it made. keep working hard on your poker and forget the haters.
03-16-2010
satyakees is offline satyakees
i think this one sums ur mentality best boywonder:


Quote:
Originally Posted by boywonder View Post
Great thread! Reason to finally stop lurking and start posting. To all guys PLAYING 3/6:

Have discovered the games to be quite soft. Opinion on regulars;

Tough but weird;
InfernaI
SchlommeP
lucksack99

The strongest regulars:
kissmanutz
rojjjlo
IamHumble
Bucuster

And then thereīs a bunch of tagfish 10 tabling.




http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...1&postcount=45

and ur videos are pretty bad and boring to boot, prefer any of the leggo (greg, aejones, jamesma, dogg etc) coaches over you anyday of the week sir.
03-16-2010
ultrasPNT is offline ultrasPNT
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I don't see what's the big problem with good table selection, our goal is to make monkey, the logical solution is to chose the most profitable games.
03-16-2010
TakeManey is offline TakeManey
hi bucuster eeehh boywonder ....
03-16-2010
frenji is offline frenji
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And whats wrong if you think yourself as one of the best regulars at your game ?
03-16-2010
ShadedGraY is offline ShadedGraY
And what if by omitting his sn from the list he had implicitly given a clue to all these who wanted to know his sn? Since boywonder is perceived as balanced and less arrogant than most BBV-ers - him putting his sn in the list would be really unexpected. So wp, sir
03-16-2010
dc_playa is offline dc_playa
"I don't see what's the big problem with good table selection, our goal is to make monkey, the logical solution is to chose the most profitable games."

A lot of people rag on bumhunting, but take a look at 10/20 and 25/50 games (or higher). They *insta* fill up when a fish sits and a huge waiting list appears. The second the fish leaves, these tables *insta* break. Not always, but most of the time. Just goes to show you how many people table select at least a little.
03-16-2010
boywonder is offline boywonder
Updated 03-16-2010 at 03:44 PM by boywonder
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Satyakees, anybody that is an Ipoker regular reading that post realizes itīs ajoke, mainly because all the "strongest regs" on that list are in fact weak regs (the snīs are not ectivbe anymore, so I think this is ok to say). An attempt at an inside joke for myself, and now for most Ipoker regs I guess. Others will jante even though itīs quite apparent, especially in retrospect, that post is a joke, really.

As for the videos, not sure if you are a Jante since I donīt presume to know anything about you (after all, we have never met), so youīll have to apologize if I canīt take your critique seriously. But just in case it is serious critique and you really do mean it based on the video and not some personal preference, you are very entitled to your opinion and itīs obvioulsy hard to please everybody with things like this.

EDIT: By the way, just to make this clear, I really do think I am one of the best regulars at my limit, especially if tiltcontrol and gameselection are considered part of the package, but that wasnīt exactly what I was thinking when making that post. But I think I am entitled to that opinion, as long as I realize that doesnīt make me anymore of a special person.
03-16-2010
boywonder is offline boywonder
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dc_playa;

Everybody knows this, everybody pretends itīs not happening as to give a somewhat falsified 7 glamourized image to those not playing at these stakes themselves. It is simply the truth that 10/20 + does not run routinely anymore on itīs own merits, and that the 10/20 and 25/50 games running are ocassionally softer than games running at lower limits. The waiting lists to these tables can oftentimes confirm this.
03-16-2010
Ted_Maul6 is offline Ted_Maul6
Why do you care about your online reputation so much, just get on with your life.
03-16-2010
boywonder is offline boywonder
Updated 03-16-2010 at 05:31 PM by boywonder
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Ted_Maul6 ; Because I charge people for my time. This information is and should be relevant to that. Outside of that, peopleīs personal opinion of me is less interesting as very few in the pokerworld have actually met me, but misinformation and in some cases deliberate untruths about anyoneīs game should be adressed if they are involved within the industry.

I think u are right

03-16-2010
nikolaspares is offline nikolaspares
I think u are absolutelly right. If you charge 475 an hour, the ethical thing to do is to clear up every aspect on what people say about you.

That is the nature of many people. Envy, etc. ( like the 7 capital sins ). But some people just cant handle their emotions and make that public acusations. Well, i dont envy u ( but sometime i fell anger when i souldnt, etc ). Try to not get bothered. But yeah, it is a pain in the ass.

If I will take a coach someday, it will be you.

Keep doing your videos please.
03-17-2010
garbageman18 is offline garbageman18
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i thought this shit was over with, let em hate wonder, just do your thing. You shouldnt have to justify your results to everyone, just to the people who pursue coaching from you.
03-17-2010
HairyG is offline HairyG
Hi Ben,

I wondered if you would have a guesstimate at the following. IF you didnt table select whatsoever, what do you think your win rate would be? I know it will be hard to estimate - but if you had to!!

Thanks
03-17-2010
boywonder is offline boywonder
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HairyG;

Interesting question. I am running at close to 6.5 pt/bb in my last quarter million hands. One thing to remember, is that even if I were to randomly sit on tables, some of those tales would be good tables anyway. More importantly, if a table isnīt at least decent, it oftentimes breaks by itself. At 10/20 on Ipoker for instance, all the gameselection is almost done for you as the thing almost never runs if the game isnīt good. At 25/50 on Ipoker this is the case 95 % of the time. My winrate would drop more if I was playing 2/4 than 10/20, which is hard to believe. I would definitely take a hit, but I have a very hard time imagining it being more than 1 or 1.5 ptbbīs as Iīd still be playing with weaker players by virtue of just sitting at 8 tables that are not breaking. There are only a few higher stakes 6-max games that do not fit this mould. This is the truth of the games in 2010, anybody that pretends otherwise is uninformed, is not playing to make money, or is very wary of upholding their image.
03-17-2010
HairyG is offline HairyG
Hi Ben,

Cheers for the response. I find it incredible that your win rate has been higher at higher stakes for such a sustained period. Would it not be good for you to go to stars where 25/50 runs regularly?

Also where is your gf from in the UK?

Thanks

Phil
03-17-2010
powerplant is offline powerplant
who cares anyway......all about the $$$$$
03-17-2010
satyakees is offline satyakees
@BW : Satyakees, anybody that is an Ipoker regular reading that post realizes itīs ajoke, mainly because all the "strongest regs" on that list are in fact weak regs (the snīs are not ectivbe anymore, so I think this is ok to say). An attempt at an inside joke for myself, and now for most Ipoker regs I guess. Others will jante even though itīs quite apparent, especially in retrospect, that post is a joke, really."

So essentially in this thread where everybody assumed you were giving out super advise and delightful insights absolutely free, was basically a complete joke to begin with. Maybe you should go back to the thread and clarify to everyone that the buddha-esque poker-zen you were preaching in that thread was snake-oil, currently being branded as joke-101.

good job for clarifying that your supposed "serios responses and i want to help everyone in the community" posturing was an inside joke.
03-17-2010
boywonder is offline boywonder
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Not sure where you got buddha-esque poker-zen from, but most people in NVG / BBV are not very educated about poker so they will create their own fantasies based on posts concerning the importance of mental control in poker, which is the only thing I have ever talked about. The ninja stuff is just in your head, I have always just claimed to be an average, in fact very average dude. But janters jante, itīs their job, so I canīt blame you too much either.
 
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