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May
16
2010
Busted and Nitrolled
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Busted about an hour ago. Blinds were 1500/3000 with a 400 ante. We are 7 handed and I had just recently doubled up when I reshoved A9o over a hi-jack open with a reasonable stealing frequency and he called me w/qjo when I had 9bb total. So now I have 55k in chips. Mp1 folds and mp2 opens for 8k, I believe he had about 100k behind. it's folded to me in the SB and I have red jacks. I have this physical tell on him for when he's strong that I think is fairly acurate and he was exhibiting it mildly, I wasn't quite sure. But JJ is pretty much towards the top of my range for restealing here so regardless of my tell there is no way I'm not jamming here for less than 20bb shorthanded.
I rejam and it's folded back round to him. This is where his act begins. First he asks for a count. Which is reasonable. The dealer tells him how much I have. Then he requests the amount he raised be taken out of my stack so he can see the difference, still fine. Now he starts stacking chips to see how much of his stack it would be to call. Then the speech begins. He starts going on about how I rejammed over him several times yesterday, implying that I'm overbetting and that it's only fun so long it works. I only rejammed over his open once yesterday for 20bb when he opened to 3.5x from the CO.
He's clearly implying marginality of his holding so far, so I think I'm atleast coinflipping v AQ or crushing v 77-TT. He now proceeds to ask me where I am from and if I speak German, even though we've already spoken German with each other and I had been speaking German with the table. Someone says I'm from Great Britain so he starts speaking to me in English until somebody tells him that I'm fluent in German. I'm not reacting to his talk and am trying to practice being well composed.
By this time I'm fairly sure that atleast 2 minutes have passed. He finally anounces call I flip over my jacks and he literally slams down queens like he made some hero call. Obviously I was on minor tilt and told him that he could've called quicker with a hand as strong as queens. He doesn't seem to think his call was standard and said I could have had AK...
The flop comes down Q high and I fail to make running quads and am out in 23rd place. I shake his hand despite his blatant nitroll and that of one other player and promptly exit the casino. In his defence I don't think he was aware that what he does is considered bad sportsmanship, but it doesn't change the fact that it was.
All in all I wasn't really tilted just slightly agitated by the situation, although I did play for 12 hours without cashing.

Next up will be a 850$ event in Ibiza in early June, it's more of a fun trip to be honest, but it's a Betfair hosted event so the structure will be very reasonable. I was dissapointed with the structures of the CAPT, even the main event wasn't too great, but definetly playable. I think if I play another CAPT event, the next will be Baden and I'm only playing 1k+ events. That was my original plan, but I've played around 4 events live this year with a buy-in lower than that, which also had a lot to do with friends of mine playing a lot of the lower buy-in events and the gain in experience.
I played some 500NL whilst waiting for a seat in a 1000NL game in Casino Austria, but it's just such a small game (for live) and such a grind. I actually didn't play my best, because it felt like I was playing 50NL online.
At one point I got on a 1000NL table and we were 5 handed. A bunch of people were on the list, but nobody came to claim there seat. The table was pretty good, but nobody wanted to play 5-handed :S except for me and one more guy. He asked if I wanted to play HU and I accepted, because I thought it was a pretty good spot for me. Only problem was that I didn't have a bunch of cash on me, because it was a bank holiday and the banks were closed. In addition to this my friends were all not in the Casino at this time so nobody could spot me some cash. Either way I really wasn't gonna play lower and I thought I might aswell just take a shot with the 1200 in front of me and see if I can hit some cards to avoid downswonging. He even wanted to play 10/20, but I wouldn't have been short with the cash on me so I had to decline sadly. Some may be wondering why I didn't withdraw money from the Casino. Well first of all in Austria ATMs only give you 400€/day :/ and withdrawing from the Casino per credit card comes with a service charge of 3,5%. So if I had withdrawn say 3000€ they would have charged me 105€. It's potentially still a good spot even then, but it feels like burning money paying 105€ to withdraw 3k.
Anywho we played a bit and I ended up losing 600€, my opponent was a good sports man and it was fun to play with him. I'm actually not sure how much casino rake cuts into my profits in this instance and what the rake cap is, because live rake is crazy high. I should probably do some research on the matter for future reference. Had I thought about it earlier I would've probably asked the floor man if we could've paid a time rake instead of a rake per pot since we we're generating action and waiting for the table to fill up.
Anywho I need to go and get some stuff done for Uni. Talk to you soon.

Daniell

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05-16-2010
diamir is offline diamir
seems to be a standard fold for those guys. the day before someone 3bets my utg raise w AK for 1/4th of his stacks (25bb) and folds to my shove. he tanks for like 3min and folds, telling me that i wont have AA or KK, but i could have QQ (for whatever reason??), so he folded. 2 orbits later he asks me if i had AK too? i just smiled and told him i wont tell him anyways. next hand he opens early w A4o and overships Axx w fldrw 4way and busts against AT. feels like they are playing a different game...
05-16-2010
diamir is offline diamir
edit: he had no fldrw but there was a fldrw possible on the flop
05-16-2010
Donkadocus is offline Donkadocus
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You need a really big edge to beat the live rake HU imo
05-16-2010
Ted_Maul6 is offline Ted_Maul6
That's not a slowroll, it's a nitroll, but not one that remotely suprises me based on the small amount of live experience I have. The last tournament I played I shoved 9bbs from the sb when folded to me and the bb checked his cards a couple of times and thought for 20-30 seconds before calling and turning his cards over, one on top of the other. The top card was an ace, then he revealed the bottom card...also an ace. Thats a slowroll.
05-16-2010
IcarusJam is offline IcarusJam
Agree with Ted u got nitrolled, 80% sure this wasn't a slow roll, he has to have like AA for it to be a live slowroll based on live players are retarded.
05-16-2010
LT22 is offline LT22
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without a doubt a nitroll
05-16-2010
cntgetmedown is offline cntgetmedown
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I've changed the title to nitroll. I agree that it is a more suitable term given the situation.
05-16-2010
dia. is offline dia.
I think max rake at the cap cash games is 14 or 15€ not 100% sure since I wasn't at a cap this yera or anywhre near a casino
05-16-2010
BobboFitos is offline BobboFitos
if you play with a time charge, not a rake, live is just fine. also, most places will give you a "rake break" to play HU (or shorthanded). its either half or no rake at all!

also, that hand is brutal. i think the other ppl are right, just a nitroll. most people are retarded, but thats what makes those tournaments soft etc. it's happened to me a few times and each time im in shock people have waited so long to call. worst thing is when you're pretty sure they are calling, but just taking their sweet time so that they can hedge "in case they were wrong"...
05-17-2010
cntgetmedown is offline cntgetmedown
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I thought about that too later on. That he put on this big show so that in case I had AA or KK he wouldn't look like a fool.
I promise I wouldn't have said a thing if he was really thinking hard about the decision, but all he was doing was talking trash about me rejamming for the 4th time vs him etc etc.
 
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