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My rededication to the game

After a long history of being competitive and playing poker I have decided to rededicate myself to NLHE.

Sep
18
2010
Played Live last night
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I rarely get to the casino anymore, most of my live play is in a home game back in my old home town. I get back to that game like once a month. Its a fun game with friends and I enjoy it very much. Plus i crush it which is always fun.

Last night was Friday and online this week has been a rough so i figure I'd take a break and run up to the casino for some soft 1/2 . Its a small casino with mostly regs. They only spreads 1/2 NL and 3/6 limit most nights. Rarely a 2/5 game sprouts up. Last night there was a 2/5 but I only took 2 BI's for 1/2 so i didnt sit at the 2/5. I should have brought a G thinking 2/5 would run on a Friday but o well.

A few things just amazed me about these players.

1st. Everyone limps. I mean EVERYONE FUCKING LIMPS LOL. And since they limp, they rarely limp fold. And these guys are regs. When they do raise, their range is very tight. Big Ax hands, large PPs and thats it. There was one fella who at first i thought was good. Not to stereo type, but he was a younger mid 20's asian kid. He had about 2.5 BIs in front of him and was about the closest to an aggressive player at the table.

I took me about an hour or so to figure him out. He raised to 6x with his large Ax hands. 4x with his middle PPs and limped all of his speculative hands. Post flop was even better. He would cbet about 1/2 pot every flop, then he would give up or call down with any piece of the flop. I thought this was to good to be tru but it was and amazingly solid read.

2nd. No one understand why they are betting post flop. I seen guys value bet in situation where they never ever get called by a worse hand on the river. I seen another guy who would raise every time his hand improved to a flush draw, on the flop or turn, didnt matter. And he raised small, just over a min raise. Another guy would donk lead, or bet the flop with any draw. Gut shot, FD OESD, it didnt matter he would fire 1 time and give up unimproved. The best part was, if he missed, he would fold his hand FACE UP !!! .

3rd. No one thinks. Not 1 person at this table spent more then 5 seconds making a decision. Most didnt even take that long. Hell it took me longer to fold air then it did for them to put money in the pot with 3rd pair no kicker.

4th. They dont understand relative hand strength vs absolute hand strength. The asian kid, who ended up not being any good, paid off turn and river bets to me after I turned the nut flush on a, AA3 9 2 board w 3 hearts, holding A7s. Does he really think someone is betting A worse A on the board?
He simply has a bluff catcher, and I doubt he understands that.

So i ask myself, how on earth do these guys play every week, or even a couple times a week, and play so dam badly. I had a read on every person at the table on just over an hour. I cbet a dry flop once and the old man at the table told me " I really dont think you have anything" then folded. LOL Im pretty sure my AQ was good anyway.

I may have to make some more trips up there. The play was just LOL, I ended up about a BI on 4 hours of play. But honestly it should have been more. I left because the table changed, and I had a bit of a brain ache from thinking so much every hand.

I think there is easily 3-4k a month to be taken out of that place.

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09-18-2010
Mr Papagiorgio is offline Mr Papagiorgio
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Lol, good job describing live play.

In big venues of tourists, i.e. Vegas – LA – Foxwoods etc. your 3-4k estimate is pretty easy. What I have found at the card rooms running 2 or maybe 3 tables of 1-2nl full of low buy-in regs and maybe a drunk guy, is that when you add the rake and bad-beat tax and the obligatory suck outs from donktards that way overplay (pay 1 to 1 on 4 to 1) draws,

//<( side note: before people jump in and say “you want those calls every time, the math does not lie” as I used to, it just doesn’t make you a huge winner when you have more than two people in the hands that usually are the bigger pots of the night coupled with the fact that you only see around 40ish hands an hour, you just won’t realize that expectational / implied profit you assume you should be getting)>//

not to mention the dealers tips, it becomes real hard to get those kind of numbers consistently.

Playing 1-2nl live and not being able to get my dollar per hour earnings up that high is the reason I joined Leggo in the first place. I can see that leaning to be a consistent winning player online is the only way to make decent money at low limits.

Sorry – that’s an extremely long way of saying that I think you need to be playing 2-5nl or higher live to get your 3-4k per month.

imo
09-18-2010
Hatya is offline Hatya
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lol tbh i was thinking what a shitty life it would make being a live pro......god its awefull and boring, but well worth the trip a few times a month.
09-18-2010
Mr Papagiorgio is offline Mr Papagiorgio
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amen
09-19-2010
IcarusJam is offline IcarusJam
basically no one knows what they are doing or how to hand read at 200 and 500, gl
 
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