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Jan
09
2013
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For Americans, we are still in uncertain times regarding AP/UB and, to a lesser extent, Full Tilt. As far as FTP, it seems we will get back our money...someday. Just don't ask me when; it will be when the remission process completes. As someone who deals with our government on a daily basis, think molasses rolling uphill.

However, there is now some certainty regarding Absolute Poker and Ultimate Bet. The chance of anyone recovering any money from them appears to be equivalent to it snowing in Las Vegas in the summer. Besides the claims of the Department of Justice, there are claims from foreign governments and others. The company and its owners appear to have gone into the ether. The last I heard the DOJ was trying to sell Cereus' software. That might recover enough money to pay the DOJ's fines...but players will get nothing.

Given that it now appears that players won't receive anything, that means there's likely enough certainty to take a casualty loss. Note that I did not say a gambling loss; none of the money was lost through wagering; you can only take gambling losses on wagering activities.

Does that mean you should take a casualty loss? I wrote about this at length in my tax blog. I'm not going to repeat everything here, but I'll summarize:

- Most non-professionals will not get any tax benefit from taking a casualty loss;
- Professionals can take a casualty loss but need to weigh the risks carefully; and
- Money "won" in 2011 but not taken as income (because it was never constructively received) cannot be taken as a casualty loss.

Casualty losses are scrutinized by the IRS. Unfortunately, it's an area where many have attempted to take advantage of the IRS, so taking a casualty loss could cause your return to be examined (audited). Do you have the documentation to prove your loss? Do you have the documentation to survive an IRS audit?

Anyone considering taking a casualty loss should discuss this at length with their own tax professional. Your facts and circumstances will determine whether or not taking a casualty loss is the right course of action for you.
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Mar
01
2012
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I probably won't have a tax video this year as there have been few changes in the Tax Code. The one lingering issue relates to how to deal with funds at Full Tilt and Ultimate Bet/Absolute Poker that are stuck in limbo. I wrote about this on my tax blog. In general, if you didn't have a cash out prior to Black Friday (in 2011) from FTP or UB/AP, you're not going to have income; if you did, you're going to have some. Your exact treatment will depend on your facts and circumstances.

I've been asked if you can take a casualty loss for 2011. That requires certainty which does not yet exist. This might happen for 2012 but not yet.
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Feb
04
2009
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Since I recorded my tax video, two tax issues that could impact you have surfaced. First, the IRS and the Dept. of the Treasury now consider online poker accounts to be a foreign bank account. These may have to be reported, both on your tax return and in a separate filing with the Department of the Treasury.

Second, Congress extended the "kiddie tax" last year. The kiddie tax was designed to stop affluent individuals from putting investment income into their childrens' accounts (which face a lower tax). However, the definition of what income is impacted by this includes gambling income. This law could have a major impact on how you file if you can be claimed as a dependent on your parent(s)' tax return. This change will primarily impact college students who do not file as professional gamblers; it will also impact their parents. I have more information on this on my tax blog.
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