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Apr
15
2011
U.S. Gov vs FTP/Stars
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The U.S. Government just charged Fulltiltpoker and Pokerstars...along with AbsolutePoker with illegal gambling charges.

They have seized their .com domain websites. The .net (play money) sites are still operational.

So far, I can still play on the site...not sure how long that will last.


Just a heads up Leggo...this quite literally just happened.

EDIT: Hrere is the DOJ release.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pres...dictmentpr.pdf

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04-15-2011
LT22 is offline LT22
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I am on complete donkey rage monkey tilt
04-15-2011
cindathompsonlol is offline cindathompsonlol
Wow...more updates on this please.
04-15-2011
ultrasPNT is offline ultrasPNT
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this is bullshit there's no bigger fish then the americans since 1/4 of the population is retarded
04-15-2011
flaviusO is offline flaviusO
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this is bullshit there's no bigger fish then the americans since 1/4 of the population is retarded
At least 1/4.
04-15-2011
lenasrokas is offline lenasrokas
any suggestions on what to do? i'm from europe and have $4K roll on Stars, should i withdraw it via neteller and see how things develop? is it possible that US gov shuts down Stars and confiscate players money?

and wtf just happened with 2+2, i was browsing that thread about this issue and 2+2 isn't working anymore, maybe some server overload with all players checking out that thread?
04-15-2011
Sc000t is offline Sc000t
Remember, Stars and FTP don't operate within the U.S. border...they just service it.

Their bank accounts and servers and offices all reside outside U.S. Jurisdiction.

I am no where near an expert on this but I think the money is def safe if you're living outside the U.S. I don't think they'll be able to keep any money...but they might be able to block U.S. players from playing by forcing Stars/FTP out of the U.S. market ala Party.

This is why the .com (US) sites have been seized but the .net (play money) sites remain open. I bet the French, Italian and other sites remain open as well. This is all speculation but I doubt Stars and FTP stop operating...they just might get forced out of U.S. market...probably (silver lining) to clear the way for U.S. regulated internet gambling. You didn't think the Casinos were spending all that money on lobbyists for nothing did you?

2+2 is probably getting flooded right now. Check twitter if 2p2 is down.


Oh and ultrasPNT...it's def more than 50%...how else do you think we voted in the politicians making this happen.
04-15-2011
coachgp is offline coachgp
the sites work for me, and a lot of other ppl on 2p2
04-15-2011
lenasrokas is offline lenasrokas
Thanks, Scoot for answering. I wonder if internet gambling will get regulated in U.S. will this mean that U.S. market will be seperated from rest of the world - meaning that europeans won't be able to play with U.S. citizens?
04-15-2011
coachgp is offline coachgp
also DC jsut legalized US pokers
04-15-2011
IcarusJam is offline IcarusJam
I can't sit at cash game tables on stars. DC just legalized US online pokers, but they just filed a claim against FTP Stars and AP? HUH!?!?!? LOLGUBBAMENT
04-15-2011
MCDT is offline MCDT
Ya I can't play mtts, sitngos, or cash here in NY right now
04-15-2011
coachgp is offline coachgp
ah cant sit at cash games, dont think anyone can
04-15-2011
bw07507 is offline bw07507
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I can still sit at FT
04-15-2011
Nitewin is offline Nitewin
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So cash out or no?
04-15-2011
Nitewin is offline Nitewin
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I can sit @ FT too
04-15-2011
bw07507 is offline bw07507
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My thoughts on cashing out are that PS/FT are not gonna take your money ever, but if you withdraw to a seized payment processor the govt might seize your funds. This is why I am electing to sit tight for now.
04-15-2011
robbyd86 is offline robbyd86
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I'm still able to sit at cash for now. This sucks big time tho!!!
04-15-2011
AASEE is offline AASEE
What is different if you are US citizen or not? I am from Europe and i can sit at PStars cash games, there are still some players from the United States playing.
04-15-2011
LT22 is offline LT22
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any US player who tried to now sit is blocked on Stars. Only those who were already sitting can continue playing.

check out www.pokerscout.com to see the effects
04-15-2011
Reefypoopoo is offline Reefypoopoo
based on past events, I think FTP also blocking US players like stars is gonna happen and soon :/
04-15-2011
MV88 is offline MV88
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well this whole thing blows, is there any hope for the future?
04-15-2011
Sc000t is offline Sc000t
I can't sit anywhere on stars, or transfer funds.

I can still play on FTP...which is worse because I'm playing like it's fake money.
04-15-2011
Les Perkins is offline Les Perkins
My advise...sit tight for now and don't panic yet.
04-15-2011
donkaholic is offline donkaholic
Bodog here I come!
04-15-2011
TwoSHAE is offline TwoSHAE
FUCK COMMERCE
04-15-2011
jonstermonster is offline jonstermonster
anyone know a good way to get money offline?
04-16-2011
preflopjitters is offline preflopjitters
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I am sitting at a cash game on AP right now
04-16-2011
Kenneth A Hildenbrand is offline Kenneth A Hildenbrand
Updated 04-16-2011 at 07:52 PM by Kenneth A Hildenbrand
Bush the inarticulate choice to succeed him was Bill Frist. A lifeless inanity whom only mumbles could be impressed with. A coward who in the middle of the night hid this law in the Safe Port Act. Did he ever break single digits??? Now Holder/Obama are coming for us. Such A Brilliant move. Why? We hold Poker close to our hearts. Time to start busting our local ( Federal) politicians asses. For those not use to arguing it takes more then one call, or being two to three lines deep
04-16-2011
AASEE is offline AASEE
I have read (on twitter lol) worldwide play will be down in 48 hours, does anyone have a more reliable source for this assumption? really hope this is not true, "business as usual" according to PStars for non-US citizens
04-16-2011
LT22 is offline LT22
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I think the 48hr comment was in regards to US players, it's def not clear what he meant
 
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