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Dec
09
2011
This is how you represent leggopoker?
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Also you promise me you'll kick my ass
Well... bring, just try it... it's gonna be the last thing you do in this life that's also a promise.
It's war from now, I even wrote you a poem:

"Roses are red, violets are blue,
They'll need dental records to identify you."

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12-09-2011
limpshove is online now limpshove
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Where's the rest of the chat?
12-09-2011
QuartermasterT is offline QuartermasterT
"jipsy" and "tht"!?

I'm outraged! Leggo poker should not support a coach that spells this bad!
12-09-2011
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lol this is awesome
12-09-2011
ultrasPNT is offline ultrasPNT
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Where's the rest of the chat?
hard to print screen when 16 tableing
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I'm outraged! Leggo poker should not support a coach that spells this bad!
lol
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lol this is awesome
it's not, no manners, no human respect, no poker respect, fortunately I know how to deal with these kind of people, I'm not that fair play myself but at least I'm not representing a coaching(ethics required?) site.
12-10-2011
Zaza is offline Zaza
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This is my last post on ur blog or respond to whatever u will write,cos there s no point in doing so, waste of energy and time.When u acted like u always act, by provoquing, acitng like a jerk pretty much, u caught me at the worse timing possible, and I shouldnt have said what I said, its twice today that I answered to u after being stuck over 10 BI , and I obviously wasnt behaving rationally, but thats my excuse.I wonder what ur reason is for being who u are, and the way u are, maybe u have some other problems in life and selfesteem, I dont know, what I do know , is that Im done fukcing around with this shit, and u can go on and behave the way u want and say whatever u want, I blocked u on my chat and will no further respond to anything.
So go ahead and do what u gotta do.
Peace out Hombres
12-10-2011
MC TRON is offline MC TRON
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lol @ getting angry about chat/words.
12-10-2011
MC TRON is offline MC TRON
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p.s, only reason I renewed my Leggo subscription today was because of Zaza's SSNL vids.
- By far one of the most real coaches out there and although I don't think what he/either of you did was right, at least he's not hiding his personality and pretending to be an inhuman robot. IMO Leggo's like a family, not a heartless company, and every family has tiffs from time to time.

I know I'll be watching and rewatching Zaza's vids no matter how awful his spelling is. haha.

Sticks and stones Leggo Land. Build a bridge.
12-10-2011
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it's possible i shouldn't say this since i own the site and stuff (or maybe i should because i can say what i want?) but ultras you are absolutely the nut-worst. this is what i think of when i think of you.
12-10-2011
MC TRON is offline MC TRON
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sweet clip. 1:24 " this chick (op) is a cunt... there's no way I'd ever yell at a woman unless that woman's a cunt"
12-10-2011
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ultras, be honest now, when you get dealt KK, do you think to yourself: "Allright, bitches, I gots The Motherfucking Gipsy Kings, stay the fuck back!" and sing the chorus of Hotel California?

http://youtu.be/xUZpoogW_40
12-10-2011
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Lol, so awesome, haha
12-10-2011
ultrasPNT is offline ultrasPNT
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but ultras you are absolutely the nut-worst
Yeah sure, your employee insults me and I'm worse of course , put a leash on your dog before it gets bitten.
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only reason I renewed my Leggo subscription today was because of Zaza's SSNL vids.
Oh really? post some results then. I doubt he can teach anything he plays different from what he preaches doubt he can coach with his people skills also.
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sweet clip. 1:24 " this chick (op) is a cunt... there's no way I'd ever yell at a woman unless that woman's a cunt"
do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
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ultras, be honest now, when you get dealt KK, do you think to yourself: "Allright, bitches, I gots The Motherfucking Gipsy Kings, stay the fuck back!" and sing the chorus of Hotel California?
I hate gipsies and mainly because idiots think Romanians are gipsy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people
Article about European gipsies don't confuse Romanian with Romani , actually these nomad tribes came from the Balkans(from zaza not from me), only fact here is that there's a lot of gipsies in my country and they make a bad name for our country everywhere they go. But we all hate them and Romanians are not like them, we are a Latin country, learn some history.
@zaza that's why online poker sucks, live you would keep your filthy mouth shut.
12-10-2011
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i think things like this and other posts ultras has made all has to do with him compensating for something he doesnt have or cant do. being successful at poker is the only thing thats giving this guy any backbone.
12-10-2011
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12-10-2011
ultrasPNT is offline ultrasPNT
Updated 12-10-2011 at 06:13 PM by ultrasPNT
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i think things like this and other posts ultras has made all has to do with him compensating for something he doesnt have or cant do. being successful at poker is the only thing thats giving this guy any backbone.
Don't you ever forget that,you and everybody that hates me, every time you see me at your tables or read some hand analysis of mine on the forums just remember the bold part.
From now on my leggo activity will be strictly about poker since the level of human respect is very low and poker is the only thing I have in common with most people here.

p.s. amazing to see the support for zaza's insults looks like it's ok and it's clearly my fault since I tilt induce WOW ! LOL ! Clearly I'm the villain here and I deserve a ban lol at lostinthesauce I won't even bother with a breakeven poker wannabe so keep leveling yourself.
12-10-2011
MC TRON is offline MC TRON
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Probability professionally diluting situations with hairy cat water as always!
THIS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7kme3GC9Gs
12-10-2011
MV88 is offline MV88
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being successful at something doesn't excuse poor etiquette, a bad attitude and cocky behavior. theres more to life than winning a poker game or an argument on an online forum.
12-11-2011
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since the level of human respect is very low and poker is the only thing I have in common with most people here.
In order to get respect, you must also give respect. Simple as that. I distinctly remember from my experience here before my time away from leggo that you were one of the most annoying and condescending people in this community. Remember that when you point the finger at someone, you have 3 more pointing right back at you.
12-11-2011
ultrasPNT is offline ultrasPNT
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In order to get respect, you must also give respect. Simple as that. I distinctly remember from my experience here before my time away from leggo that you were one of the most annoying and condescending people in this community. Remember that when you point the finger at someone, you have 3 more pointing right back at you.
That may be but I just represent myself , a leggo coach should have respect at the tables, especially for a leggo member he is getting paid he has responsibilities.
Also if I annoy you ignore me it's very simple there are other members who hate me and ignored me no problem my motto is not "It's nice to be nice."
Also if I'm THAT annoying just make a poll-vote somewhere and if the results are THAT bad against me I'll just leave the leggo community with no hard feelings against anybody.
12-11-2011
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leggopoker is very bad managed, in a dictatorial manner, based on friendship and racism! when you start bashing your subscribers (or ex) using words like "cunt","idiot", "completefuckinasshole" or just suggesting it, your business is going down! of course, when you have coaches like zazano or irishman you don't really have a lot of quality on the site, especially when they start cursing guys that contributed to their "wage" or "benefits"

it's like Negreanu will start cursing sauce at the tables for being a fish and cracking top set with idiot straight in 4bet pot.. but no, he does not... i just wonder why? it's maybe because he's a gentleman and he represent PokerStars image, and PokerStars is a real business, not a joke... like leggo is when encouraging this phony behaviour

ultras is one of the best poker players in this community that really contributed to the forums with his opinions (obv when you win over a big poker sample, like much of the leggo coaches don't have, your posts mean quality). if I were him I'd sue leggopoker for this racism behaviour and insults that MC TRON, lostinthesaus or others proliferate, it's for sure just envy from poker pro wannabes

ultras i advise you to leave this community, it's just a waste of time for you! the can teach you SHIT here!
12-12-2011
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flavius, why are you interested in bringing negative energy to the site if you are so convinced that it is terrible? it is incredibly illogical, though it doesn't seem like you realize it.
12-12-2011
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Aaron, this is an old issue you guys could have resolved a long time ago if there was no friendship involved. I am not here to defend or accuse anyone (I could defend ultras since we are living in the same house and I know how he is in rl, but I won't cuz he's an adult and can do it for himself). I just feel like I need to highlight a few details of this whole matter.
Yes, both him and Flavius might have been annoying to a lot of people, since neither of them is the standard gentleman. However I remember exactly how this virtual war started and who flamed it and the biggest racists were not them, but some of your friends here. Sure you are not to blame for a behavior that you did not teach, but if you understand the term fair play you cut off the crap that someone is throwing at others. Even though I was barely active on the forum, I remember how toocrispy wrote on his blog that I was a whore, let alone he never had seen me or talked to me or knew who I was. Romanian ho! Nice one right? It is very funny. The buttered popcorn goes magnificent with this kind of comments. Just as it does with comments like "is there electricity in your country?" or "do you eat every day?" Most of the people trashing Romania can't even find it on the map, but hey...they are all gypsies in Romania. What is even funnier is that a guy from Montenegro says that, a country with just as many gypsies as ours. And there is a bunch of others seconding him.
12-12-2011
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I fully agree with ultras on a single matter: Zaza represents Leggo, thus he should act appropriately and do not let tilt get over him in such a manner, no matter what he is told at the tables. There are lots of players who provoke others at the table so they lose control over the game and start burning money in a rant against the offender. Since when is tilting your opponent a bad thing? Especially when you are just making cynic remarks and he is coursing like a mad man. Honestly, I couldn't care less about how many BI's he was down..if he can't stand heat then he should stay away from the oven. Period! Yeah, being successful does not excuse poor etiquette but neither does being on tilt!
12-12-2011
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christina, at this point it is almost like the boy who cried wolf-- essentially, every issue that we've had has revolved around you, flavius, and ultras (obviously i am not sure who is ever at fault or who started what-- just that the three of you have come to defend each other). the one common denominator between random spats on leggo has the same "villians." thus, would you not agree that it seems most likely that those people are the problem? again, i do not know how they start or why the escalate-- it is the internet, after all. given that it is the internet, i just keep referring to that joe rogan podcast quote about negative blips of energy ((link again). i don't know how or why the argument between zaza and ultras started, but why does ultras feel the need to come here and report him? im not saying snitches get stitches, but is his skin really that thin? in my day i've probably said a lot of things (i'd imagine i kept most insults pretty vanilla and never got to personal) that i regretted in the moment, or when i was younger, but (thankfully) i don't think i get "reported" to the internet police too often. why couldn't ultras have PM'd me personally and let me take care of the situation internally? i would have treated that with much more respect, instead of what was a blatant attempt to get zaza embarrassed or fired or something by posting a blog. my first reaction, honestly, was that ultras had a bone to pick for one reason or another and tried to bait zaza into saying something he would regret (admittedly, it still shouldn't have worked). we regret that zaza acted the way he did in response, he regrets it, and we've handled it internally. if you truly have a problem with us backing zaza on this as someone who made a mistake, then, as i've said many times, we understand you may have to take your business elsewhere and we understand your decision. i've spent too much time on this already!
12-12-2011
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ultras criticizes a player in a condescending manner inthe chatbox. That player retaliates. ultras then gets offended. Two things seem fairly obvious to me about this situation.

First, ultras needs to understand the golden rule: treat others as you wish to be treated. You don't want someone to say comments like that in the chatbox? Then don't type similar things yourself. You don't get a free pass just because you aren't a leggo coach. You still need to act appropriately on a human level and show respect to people. To me, this is something that seems so much like common sense. I think I learned it when I was 6 or something.

Second, no one is defending (that I know of) any leggo coaches. Last I checked I see Aaon saying things like he regrets the way a given leggo coach acted and handled it internally. Generally speaking, handling situations internally is how a legitimate company operates. Again, this is common sense. If you're thinking that these coaches need to be fired, you are apparently extremely unforgiving. But then you need to realize there is a double standard here. Should Stars kick both of you off of their site for using such language? Because you are certainly far from innocent bud. Pretty damn far.

Again remember, treat others the way you wish to be treated and you can avoid essentially 98% of these issues from ever even occuring. Try and keep that in mind.
12-12-2011
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Let me add yet another of my two bob.

One thing I actually really like about ultras is that I don't think he's the type to hold a grudge. I think he treats (almost) every thread as individual view regardless of previous history.

Ultras actually commented on my blog and wished me luck with my recovery only a few hours after I commented on this the first time. I think this is the reason that this issue is going to be blown over; because I'm sure both ultras and zaza will see a hand history, and give their valued opinions the same as they always do and be open to other's opinions regardless of what ptr says.

Poker isn't played in a vacuum, and neither is life. I'm sure the ability to move on and view future situations (or hands) objectively for a mutual gain in understanding the given situation without letting past events effect that learning irrelevantly, is a key aspect in becoming a successful poker player/person.
12-12-2011
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I remember sitting somewhere in Vegas this summer with Crispy and Jaymesbond. We were talking about Leggo, and I remember defending Ultras. I said he is the way he is because everyone gets on his back, he's actually pretty reasonable, people should leave him alone, etc.

Everything I've seen since leaves me thinking he is literally one of the worst people I've ever 'met' on the internet. And he's pretty nice to me compared to other leggo coaches! He's just an utterly transparent troll.

Insecure and needing attention, but lacking anything truly interesting to say, he's left only with lashing out at his perceived superiors as his way of getting it. He craves validation, and approval, but through his social retardedness fails to realise that somewhere like Leggo is the last place that these tactics will get him what he wants.

His late 200nl streak ( I won't call it a heater as the results are most likely warranted) has, in his eyes at least, given him some creditability as a poker voice. Like a thrilled teenager on his first taste of vodka, any remaining inhibitions have been cast away. What is left is a nasty, vindictive, needy, 'negative blip of energy'. A net drain on the world and those around him. Leggo, I implore ye, ban him !
12-12-2011
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well truth be told all of this is irrelevant so how about you all get back to whatever you were doing and chill the fuck out haha
12-12-2011
ultrasPNT is offline ultrasPNT
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why couldn't ultras have PM'd me personally and let me take care of the situation internally?
Because I don't care about that, also didn't report the chat abuse to pokerstars he can confirm he hasn't got a chat ban.
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One thing I actually really like about ultras is that I don't think he's the type to hold a grudge.
thanks, leg injuries and leg surgeries are NOT cool been there done that.
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I remember defending Ultras.
Thanks, with anything else you're way off except for the ban argument maybe
About my 200nl streak: guess we'll see about that in the future, I believe that in the end everybody gets what he deserves in poker and irl.
12-12-2011
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Does anybody else here think that ultras/flavius/christina might just be the same person?
 
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