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Old 05-22-2008, 01:31 PM
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Ikaika,

I appreciate your concern. However, I know exactly what I am taking. I did plenty of research on it and followed others logs of it on BB.com to see what worked for them.
Took 1-AD back when that was still out so I am not a noob with this. I have PCT accounted for so I should be all set. I was thinking of stacking this with Havoc or something eventually but wanted to see how I respond to this when I take it alone first. Thanks.
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Old 05-22-2008, 03:27 PM
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Good to hear bro. I'd go with Epistane rather than Havoc in general as the raws for Havoc were tested for purity and did pretty poorly.
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Old 05-27-2008, 01:23 PM
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Hey guys although they are legal I would prefer not to talk about PS/PH on this forum. It's clear that you know what you are talking about Bern, but there are probably a lot of people on here that are new to training, around the 18 year old range, and who shouldn't be learning about this stuff because they don't understand the magnitude/risks of it.
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Old 05-27-2008, 02:45 PM
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Hey guys although they are legal I would prefer not to talk about PS/PH on this forum. It's clear that you know what you are talking about Bern, but there are probably a lot of people on here that are new to training, around the 18 year old range, and who shouldn't be learning about this stuff because they don't understand the magnitude/risks of it.
+1 to this...folks here should really focus on learning the basics since there is so much information to digest without getting into the intricacies of using PS/PH.
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:06 AM
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I dont get why anyone who isnt a paid bodybuilder would use steroids, EVER.
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:42 AM
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point taken.

Anyone have any particular Fat Burner they like more than others? I normally don't use them.
Obviously, Diet and Cardio are priority but anyone have any success with anything in particular?
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Old 05-29-2008, 12:19 PM
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point taken.

Anyone have any particular Fat Burner they like more than others? I normally don't use them.
Obviously, Diet and Cardio are priority but anyone have any success with anything in particular?
I good ECA stack for you would be pretty good... I also remember for non-ephedra I tried HEAT by Avant about 3 years ago... don't know if they still make it though.
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Old 05-29-2008, 11:25 PM
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HEAT is pretty hard to find at this point. I'd suggest EC(no A plz). Ephedrine HCl is kind of a pain in the ass to find these days too now that Evopro is no longer available. I was thinking I'd post up an EC FAQ if there is interest.
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Old 05-30-2008, 10:54 AM
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HEAT is pretty hard to find at this point. I'd suggest EC(no A plz). Ephedrine HCl is kind of a pain in the ass to find these days too now that Evopro is no longer available. I was thinking I'd post up an EC FAQ if there is interest.
I'd probably hold off on thermogenics for now .

Also you're right about the "A" part.
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Old 06-18-2008, 12:22 PM
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I'm working offline on a big compilation of everything I've ever used. Its in a lol document at this point but I'll be posting it once it gets a little more filled out.
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