Fundamentally increase non-showdown winnings

[uknowplayon]

Holdem Manager shows my showdown winnings are great, but my non-showdown winnings are way too low.

How to increase non-showdown winnings in heads-up play fundamentally?

Thanks

[Donkadocus]

Shove all in every hand

[Chef_XC]

Valuebet thinner, herocall more...

But most of all, bluff more. U prb aren't bluffing as much as u think u do (if u were hinking that at all )

[Laser Show]

What stakes do you play? What is your win rate?

My red line also nosedives. At 100-200NL that's not really a concern for me because the player pool is pretty loose/passive. Against these types it only makes sense to value bet, so I don't c-bet as much as I would against tighter players, and am pretty selective about bluffing. But I punish them with value bets and it results in massive showdown winnings. If you are playing tighter more aggressive opponents, a positive red line would correlate with a winning style of play. This makes sense the higher stakes you play. Sometimes I sweat higher stakes matches and notice how infrequently regulars even see flops or turns.

Bottom line, you don't need a positive redline to be a winning player, but I would expect that most winning mid-stakes and high-stakes regulars play a style that results in one.

Since you're asking how to fundamentally develop a style that would increase your red line you could try the following:

Widen your 3 and 4 bet range preflop with more bluff and value hands
Bluff raise flops in position
Float flops and bet turns when checked to. Be willing to fire rivers.
Overbet all streets to create more pressure on opponent. Knowing you have to call pot+ pot+ shove will tighten up any opponents range.

I would pick the right opponent to experiment with these types of things in good spots where you would normally not do any of the above. I wouldn't try this against fish because it's not really necessary, but if you're playing a good regular it can make for a fun match.

[uknowplayon]

Thanks already, some interesting stuff to think about for sure!

Maybe relating to this subject a little, what if your red line is booming through the ceiling while your blue line is way too low? What to do when your showdown winnings are negative?
(a friend of mine has this problem)

[Laser Show]

Redline usually comes at the expense of your blue line, so reverse would be true.

If he bluffs a lot he will be losing bigger pots at showdown when called. Again, it's a question of opponents, which can correlate with stakes. If he's playing 50-200NL I'm not sure he'll win the most money with the booming red line style.

[Fuzzy Logic]

Originally Posted by Donkadocus

Shove all in every hand

Stop trolling the thread. If you dont have anything constructive to say then please leave it out.

[bw07507]

Worry about your green line, not your red line.

[HemmaCuda]

Originally Posted by bw07507

Worry about your green line, not your red line.

This

Basically the quickest way to correct your redline and f up your green line is to call down v v v v light. Do some soul read own really sick stuff.

[the fox is bak jak]

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