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Old 11-06-2011, 12:25 PM
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Default NL50: rivered flush facing lead, chk, lead

V appears to be some of those fishier but nitty russian dudes. Some stats:
call OOP: 60%
hasn't 3bet yet, probably 40 hands in
FCbet: 3/4 but he appears very straight foward. I.e. he sometimes openlimps the SB and just folds to random stabs by me.
has led shortly before on K85 2tone

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NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
($26.05)
Hero ($51.80)

Dealt to Hero 7 6

Hero raises to $1.50, calls $1

FLOP ($3) 9 9 T

bets $1, Hero calls $1

TURN ($5) 9 9 T J

checks, Hero checks

RIVER ($5) 9 9 T J 2

bets $2.40, Hero ?

On the flop I don't like raising that much because I feel like he won't fold anything better on the flop, maybe not even on the turn and betting all streets without any info on this range doesn't seem like a good idea + he might just 3bet right there.
I could probably just bet turn. This card will often have improved his hand but it doesn't seem like he has 9x ever and he could definitely bet Jx a lot so I can try to fold out Tx and better draws or A high/overcard hands by the river.
Any merits in putting in a small value raise at the river and probably fold to a shove? I can see him betting Tx, sometimes Jx like that. He can have better draws and I'd like to get a read on his leading range but it still looks like a valueraise especially given his 1/2 pot bet.
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: NL50: rivered flush facing lead, chk, lead

I would play more aggro on flop and turn here. Would raise flop, but if I called flop I would bet turn 100% of the time.

As for the river, definitely an easy raise
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: NL50: rivered flush facing lead, chk, lead

The thing with the flop raise is that I don't really expect him to fold any hand until the river and I always feel a bit unwell about firing three into a completely unknown range.
On the river you fold to any 3bet size? It sucks if he only reclicks and we get the best odds ever but we're behind so often. In this case I raised to 6.75 and he 3bet to 11.1
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: NL50: rivered flush facing lead, chk, lead

I'd just call and expect to lose pretty often
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Old 11-08-2011, 11:09 AM
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Default Re: NL50: rivered flush facing lead, chk, lead

now u can just call river.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: NL50: rivered flush facing lead, chk, lead

Idk, I really think we're behind almost always especially since I think he can play the nuts like this and there really aren't that many worse flushes/hands in his range which he might not even raise. I think with the Jdxd I'd crying call and still feel not great about it but I really don't see any hand that I beat with 7 high diamonds.
Another thing is the following: I think if we call $11.xx we probably have to call a shove ($23.xx) as well because he's never ever bluffing for the former but might (still unlikely imo) for the latter betsize?!
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: NL50: rivered flush facing lead, chk, lead

i agree with everything d2 said, when he bets so small i jst kinda treat it like a check, its not like ur gonna get owned when he 3bets flop like u wud vs a good reg, the guys obv a retard
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:30 AM
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Default Re: NL50: rivered flush facing lead, chk, lead

I think flop and turn is ok. Not raising river is not ok. I wouldn't really worry about getting 3b on the river until it actually happens. If i did get 3b, I don't think I would ever fold, although I wouldn't expect to be good often either. Also, I think you should be raising either really small or pretty big but I'm not sure which.
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Old 11-28-2011, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: NL50: rivered flush facing lead, chk, lead

raise flop bet turn. think river is a small raise and once he min 3bets you i mean cmon hes a nitty guy you're boned just find a fold
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