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Old 10-15-2008, 12:12 PM
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Default 10/20 Trips get raised on river in Blindbattle

Problem is I have no reads on villain as i just started playing this session, i have ~400 hands on him (he plays 27/22 3bet:10%) but dont remember anything so i guess those stats might be old or datamined he however seems to be a 10/20 reg. I play ~23/19 if he has stats on me.

Yeah i have like the nuts but this seems like a spot where he wouldnt really bluff since he almost always has to have some kind of made hand after calling twice on that board so if he puts me on a bluff he calls unless he turns some weak hand into a bluff trying to get me to fold an ace which seems unlikely given the price he is laying or could he actually be doing this with weaker aces?

I called because of odds, Blind vs Blind and umm because i had trips

thoughts? also does this change if its the same situation but not Blind vs Blind

i would also apreciate thoughts on river betsizing in this situation i bet kinda biggish cause an Ace calls anyways and I thought it might even look more bluffy in case he has a lower pair and wants to be a hero


$10/$20 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 3 Players
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BB: $3,275
BTN: $477.75
Hero (SB): $1,980

Pre-Flop: A Q dealt to Hero (SB)
BTN folds, Hero raises to $70, BB calls $50

Flop: ($140) A 2 6 (2 Players)
Hero bets $100, BB calls $100

Turn: ($340) 9 (2 Players)
Hero bets $250, BB calls $250

River: ($840) A (2 Players)
Hero bets $700, BB raises to $2,855 and is All-In, Hero calls $860 and is All-In
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Old 10-15-2008, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 Trips get raised on river in Blindbattle

sick river spot for sure and you probably dont have the best hand...but i think pot controlling the turn wouldnt be a bad idea...even with trips on the river its going to be hard to get paid off by worse because your hand looks exactly like what it is when you 3 barrel like that but when you check the turn then bet the river with trips you could probably get paid off by a weaker A a lot more than you would when you 3 barrel
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 Trips get raised on river in Blindbattle

I think triple barreling is mandatory here, you should have a fairly wide 3 barreling range here and AQ should definitely be in it even if you do not improve on the river b/c everyone peels so light BB vs SB and will have every Ax in their range along w/ 6xss 2xss, which they are not going to bet if you check and then will fold to river leads. you will gain much more value against your opponents overall range by betting the flop and the turn. even pure floats on the flop that pick up flushdraws on the turn or something. i think your river bet sizing is fine, you could make it a bit smaller aswell and good players will sometimes lay down Ax on the river depending on their view of you. river u are beat most of the i don't think that i see very many people turning hands into bluffs or shoving here w/ air but i might call anyway, esp if i don't know the opponent i like to look em up
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Old 10-15-2008, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 Trips get raised on river in Blindbattle

yah i agree re the barreling, since i am cbetting this flop close to 100% AQ is so far at the top of my range on the turn and also on almost all rivers that 3barreling is def my default here. Also agree about good players potentially laying down Ax in this spot, I just thought here 3handed blind vs blind without history he would never fold it.
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Old 10-15-2008, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 Trips get raised on river in Blindbattle

i didnt notice that it was 3 handed i think that changes it a bit as they will be less likely to fold Ax...i agree with Mez that you should be 3 barreling here because he could have picked up outs and what not
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Old 10-18-2008, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 Trips get raised on river in Blindbattle

id shrug and call, but i wouldn't be thrilled by any means!
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Old 10-19-2008, 04:49 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 Trips get raised on river in Blindbattle

villain had 78o for the pure float --> turned draw --> bluff river i guess. Thx for responses
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