5/10 A9o BTN v hyper aggressive SB

[PlsTilt]

I am taking a shot at 5/10, am not familiar with villain but I do have 7k datamined hands on him.
He seems to be a loser in my sample (-2$/hand)
Stats:
31/29 with af 8.9 his 3bet from the blinds is between 13 and 15%.
his cbet is 86%, his turn bet 56%.
His fold to 4bet is 36%.

Sitting only 2 orbits at the table, haven't clashed with SB yet. I don't really have a feeling if this is someone who is strong and thinking or loose and crazy.
When he 3bets I'd normally 4bet or fold but I don't encounter people 3betting this wide often, so I got confused and ended up treating my A9o as if it's ATs.

Questions:
Is it a standard call down? Feels gross board for him to barrel down with a bluff..
Would it be a standard call down with AT?
If he's doing it for value, is the bottom of his range A8 / AJ, can he vbet KQcc here?
If he's barreling only with equity on the turn, is the river a call because clubs miss?



IPoker Network $1000.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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SB: $1381.75
BB: $951.00
UTG: $1122.00
MP: $515.00
CO: $740.00
Hero (BTN): $1013.50

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BTN with 9 A
3 folds, Hero raises to $26, SB raises to $100, 1 fold, Hero calls $74

Flop: ($210.00) A 2 8 (2 players)
SB bets $140.00, Hero calls $140

Turn: ($490.00) J (2 players)
SB bets $290.00, Hero calls $290

River: ($1070.00) K (2 players)
SB bets $535.00, Hero calls $483.50 all in

[Dustylove]

Not a fan of calling pre. but not to big of a fan of the other stuff either. If it's early in the session I'd 4bet since he'll be less likely to 5betshove if he's never seen you before I guess. As played life sucks and river might be a fold but it's really close. Problem is that a lot of the hands you beat on flop picks up some kind of equity on turn and a bunch weird hands (QT, KJ, Kc8c?) hit. He'll never shove river for value with KQ. Guess you can fols just since he has really few combos of hands with no sd-value except like T9, 8cXc, 4c3c and such. Dunno, I feel it's a tossup and I'd call just to see wtf he has. Don't think he has AT that much, might shove AQ I guess.

[playforfoodz]

it's a standard call down only if you know the villain and have aggro dynamics with him, as a default, though, it's a major spew. "club miss" argument is hilarious, compared to how many better combos he's got

[desire]

4-betting is almost for sure better than calling pre, as played i would play it the same and fold river (folding river is a combination of him leaving half pot behind and thus rarely bluffing pure pot odds wise + there are very few flop/turn draws that missed)

also some of the draws that he might have depending on his 3b ranges are KX where he turned a gutter that would probably check river given that they picked up enough SD value (or at least they wouldn't try to get you off Ax which is what your hand looks like)

[Bazclef]

I don't like your flat pre, I'd rather have something that flops better than A9o. I'm never gonna be too excited about calling down multiple barrels vs someone so aggro, so I think you're gonna need to raise a LOT of flops. Which is fine given our image is real clean, but I wouldn't pick this spot to do it.

I don't think it's a great 4bet spot given the info you have on villain. Yea you're new, but you did 2.6x the button which could lead him to believe you're reg'ish and his default play here could be to 5bet... ipoker HS is fucking insane. There isn't much edge here 4betting really so if I was shot-taking I'd just muck it. Also I wouldn't be sat with this guy to my left.

Would it be a standard call down with AT?
If he's doing it for value, is the bottom of his range A8 / AJ, can he vbet KQcc here?

AT/A9 are the same hand here, he's not gonna be value-shoving AT on the river vs. an unknown. I'd expect the bottom of his value range to be A2.

If he's barreling only with equity on the turn, is the river a call because clubs miss?

I'd expect him to think you folded TT/99 on the turn and I don't think there's enough hands you'll have taken this line with that I'd be trying to fold out with a half pot river shove. If I were villain I'd generally just think you have an A and won't fold it all that much. Call turn, fold river.

[Dustylove]

If the worst he shoves is A2 something is seriously fucked with his game.

[bamboo6386]

Vs. his 13-15% 3 betting of steals, I'm pretty sure 4 bet shovng can't be all that bad. but someone who is not lazy may be able to do the math.

[bamboo6386]

i think it's a definite fold by the river. I'm wondering if shoving the turn is better than calling down. once the J hits and you call the turn. he's really a lot less likely to bluff the 3rd barrel cuz your hand looks like Ax or better.

[Gorgi24]

Meeeeeeh, I would fold pre. But as played I think I would fold the turn. And I would fold the turn with AT as well. We only have a bluff catcher and the board is too scary for him to be bluffing with some shitty hand.

[Gorgi24]

Originally Posted by bamboo6386

Vs. his 13-15% 3 betting of steals, I'm pretty sure 4 bet shovng can't be all that bad. but someone who is not lazy may be able to do the math.

This is bad. VERY bad. If he 3 bets 13% from the blinds that doesn't mean he gets it in with 13% of his range! If we were 4 betting, we would be 4-bet folding, no way getting it in here with A9 is profitable.