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Old 01-12-2010, 01:22 AM
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Default 5/10 DEEP, (KK) River decision!!?

Hello all,

Opponent is very solid reg @ these games, I wana say TAG, but he is defiantly capable of mixing it up.

I flatted with with kings to mix it up, and because BB(hardcory3011) likes to squeeze.

Stage #1848300315: Holdem No Limit $10 - 2010-01-11 21:47:28 (ET)
Table: ABBEY AVE (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dead dealer
Seat 3 - YELLOWDAWG ($2,904 in chips)
Seat 4 - HARDCORY3011 ($2,007 in chips)
Seat 5 - A2STEAKSAUCE ($1,985 in chips)
Seat 6 - GUIGUI_88 ($1,018 in chips)
Seat 1 - HERO ($2,097 in chips)
YELLOWDAWG - Posts small blind $5
HARDCORY3011 - Posts big blind $10
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Ks Kh]
A2STEAKSAUCE - Raises $30 to $30
GUIGUI_88 - Folds
HERO - Calls $30
YELLOWDAWG - Folds
HARDCORY3011 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [4h 6s Qh]
A2STEAKSAUCE - Bets $50
HERO - Calls $50
*** TURN *** [4h 6s Qh] [10c]
A2STEAKSAUCE - Checks
HERO - Bets $150
A2STEAKSAUCE - Raises $440 to $440
HERO - Calls $290
*** RIVER *** [4h 6s Qh 10c] [4d]
A2STEAKSAUCE - Bets $600
HERO -


Thoughts on all streets? My hand is defiantly under-repped on this river... so i guess i should...
1) just call?
2) shove ?
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Old 01-12-2010, 07:51 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 DEEP, (KK) River decision!!?

call call

your value range on this turn is very thin, although his river betsizing is quite disturbing, considering that your hand looks exactly like QK/AQ that he's trying not to scare away, so meh, i could find a fold on the river, but turn is a very easy call and without any betsizing tells river is also a call
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Old 01-13-2010, 05:50 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 DEEP, (KK) River decision!!?

I think you can raise flop sometimes... as played I'd be pretty confused on the turn so probably just clicking the call button. I assume he could checkraise a lot of draws here as well some some made hands worse than yours so probably never really folding
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Old 01-16-2010, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 DEEP, (KK) River decision!!?

I also like a flopraise here !

Calling the turn...

i dont know about the river though. I just feel people slow down if the board pairs. I played with villian for a couple of days a while back. He can mix it up, but trying to make you fold AQ on the river when the board pairs doesnt really look like him.
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Old 01-19-2010, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 DEEP, (KK) River decision!!?

I'd just call. There is probably only 1 worse valuehand that can possibly bet/call the river (QT).

I don't think he would c/r AQ on the turn. If his range is boats, some bluffs, QT, than I think we should just call.
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 DEEP, (KK) River decision!!?

I'd call the river since as The_End said, QT is the only worse hand he b/c the river with, but he can c/r the turn with sets/AA/draws, although it's very tough to know what kind of hands his turn c/r is weighted towards.

I'd raise the flop sometimes, generally raising without the Kh is a good way to randomize when you flat and when you raise here. 100bb I'd be more inclined to raise the flop or if I had AxAx without the Ah.
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Old 02-19-2010, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 DEEP, (KK) River decision!!?

It's not like you're gonna fold KQ AQ here so much,
He wants a call, so I'd fold here, since AQ is never checkraising for value here on turn. Also you have Kh which blocks KhJh combo, that might checkraise turn.
You're up against 44 QQ TT 66, or QT, AA, most likely something with a T in it since he starts taking the weird line (checkraise) on the turn.
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Old 03-14-2010, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 DEEP, (KK) River decision!!?

HERO - Calls $600
*** SHOW DOWN ***
A2STEAKSAUCE- Shows [Qd 10d] (Two Pair, queens and tens)
HERO - Shows [Ks Kh] (Two Pair, kings and fours)
HERO Collects $2,252 from main pot
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Old 03-18-2010, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 DEEP, (KK) River decision!!?

before having read results i was gonna say given his sizing qt is very likely. even so, i don't know if shoving is a good move esp if you don't think his sizing narrows the range down that much given what you know from having played with him a good bit. some other things to consider are that if he folds qt to a shove and how often he's bluffing.
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