5/10 multiway top two on monotone

[desire]

got nothing on villain, was sitting on at least one other 5/10 table so prob a reg, i think his sizing sucks regardless of his hand

i think flop is kind of standard and im kind of looking to fold turn ? its just so strange bc if he can ever have like A2 for value then my fold will be so bad. also he is closing action pre and prob has a very wide range for overcalling so tons of flushes in there and 77 unlikely combowise

thoughts on flop are also welcome




$5/$10 Deep No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO ($4279.50)
Hero (BTN) ($2638.00)
SB ($1737.15)
BB ($1338.00)

Pre-flop: ($15, 4 players) Hero is BTN 7 A
CO raises to $35, Hero calls $35, SB calls $30, BB calls $25

Flop: 2 A 7 ($140, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $111, SB folds, BB raises to $302, CO folds, Hero calls $191

Turn: J ($744, 2 players)
BB goes all-in $1,001

[Gorgi24]

Stack sizes are ackward. 100 BBs deep I like just shipping the flop.

As you said his sizing sucks, and tbh his line sucks with most hands he can have. Readless, I would say it's a very close fold as I don't think he'll do this with A2 ever and his turn shove is definetely a small flush a very high percentage of the time.

[IcarusJam]

shove flop, call as played

[grogheadflow]

yeh dont fold.

[Bazclef]

I think we're behind his range... could possibly have the right pot odds, it's close imo.

His turn betsize looks bluffy but there's not much air/PR+FD in his range on the turn imo. A2 yea, AK/AQ are pretty unlikely, maybe some AJh/ATh but then he's not always gonna bomb the turn with them either. I think his line is really consistant with a small flush that doesn't want you drawing, I've seen this a lot. Because he flats as BB 4way there are a shit ton of flushes can he have too. I don't think we've got the 37%.

[desire]

i dont get the reasoning behind "dont fold" - i dont know the math but basically he is "never" bluffing (and if he is he has the KhXx) and the only hand that i beat for value is A2, its 4way and he was closing the action pre so he can even have like 3gapped SCs maybe, i think its way closer and id appreciate more comments on the hand

[playforfoodz]

i'd say a lot of ppl would lead a set/2p on this board, but check a flush, so his range for raising is pretty polarized (since CO didn't cbet and SB just checked, he has no reason to believe they are worth keeping in the hand). tbh, i don't believe he expects you to fold on a blank turn card, so it's probably a fold unless you get a better read, plus unlike most other situations, his range includes a lot of suited garbage, given the odds pre. and shoving flop would be bad, fwiw - for it to work he either needs to call 130bb off with A2, which is pretty unlikely, or think that we can get it in with Qhigh fdraw vs his K-high, which is retarded. Like i said, his range is polarized to nuts/near nuts and total air, shoving doesn't accomplish anything.

as for his turn betsizing - he has no choice now, does he? if he bets 600-700, it's the same as shoving, since 300 more on the river won't have any fold equity or value.

[desire]

Originally Posted by playforfoodz

i'd say a lot of ppl would lead a set/2p on this board, but check a flush, so his range for raising is pretty polarized (since CO didn't cbet and SB just checked, he has no reason to believe they are worth keeping in the hand). tbh, i don't believe he expects you to fold on a blank turn card, so it's probably a fold unless you get a better read, plus unlike most other situations, his range includes a lot of suited garbage, given the odds pre. and shoving flop would be bad, fwiw - for it to work he either needs to call 130bb off with A2, which is pretty unlikely, or think that we can get it in with Qhigh fdraw vs his K-high, which is retarded. Like i said, his range is polarized to nuts/near nuts and total air, shoving doesn't accomplish anything.

as for his turn betsizing - he has no choice now, does he? if he bets 600-700, it's the same as shoving, since 300 more on the river won't have any fold equity or value.

agreed but the reason i said that his sizing sucks was because he made the flop c/r too small which lead him to be in a badish spot on the turn where his shove will be an overbet where as it couldve been a more normal size

[playforfoodz]

a lot of ppl don't give a shit about bet sizing on multiple streets fwiw

[Unknown Soldier]

not reaslly sure what all you "dont fold!!"ers are expecting to see here. I think we're beat a lot.