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Old 09-22-2009, 02:00 PM
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Default 5/10 overpair is getting c/r on the turn

villain should view hero on the laggy side. we both are regulars on the site but I´m not playing much 5/10. we tangled in a few standard spots but nothing special. i squeezed his MP open and a fish on the btn from the BB with AKo, he 4bets and I jammed all in, he shows KK. he c/called twice with A4s on a dry Axxx board as PFR. I fired the 2nd barrel with a turned flush draw but give up on the river.

I think flatting flop and betting turn is nothing unorthodox. But I´m lost on the turn.

First: It seems like a pretty bad c/r as a bluff with cause he is repping a narrow range. So my first inclination was to fold the turn.

Second: I´m at the very top of my value range besides boats(I´m rarely if ever having a hand like KK-AA in this spot and QQ I´m sometimes flatting but mostly 3betting) and I´m betting in this spot close to 100% of my floats. So in theory it´s pretty exploitable when I´m folding something like JJ in this spot. But I could be wrong. So I decide to call the turn and fold to pretty much any(one note: I´m probably flatting most of my boats here too) rivershove.

Third: I think he will bet all streets with almost all his holdings, strong ones and draws. I don´t think that he takes the risk of potentially giving me a free card on the turn with his strong(vulnarable) hands.

What do you guys think? easy call, shove or whatever on the turn.
and what do you do on the river if he jams all in on a blank?

for what its worth, here are the stats from villain: 30/20/3/23 over 800 hands

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $10(BB) Replayer
SB ($1,000)
BB ($1,327)
UTG ($1,541)
Hero ($1,342)
CO ($1,454)
BTN ($1,177)

Dealt to Hero J J

UTG raises to $30, Hero calls $30, fold, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($75) 2 7 9

UTG bets $55, Hero calls $55

TURN ($185) 2 7 9 9

UTG checks, Hero bets $135, UTG raises to $295, Hero??
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Old 09-22-2009, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 overpair is getting c/r on the turn

Im confused a bit on why he would checkraise the turn with a hand like QQ-AA. Weird play if he does that so im leaning towards calling. He probably missed and felt u were floating a lot on that flop and probably will be raising sets, 2pairs so he went for the checkraise.

Pretty tough call on the river if he jams though but I think he also gives up a ton on the river w/o a 9 or better if he believes there's any 9x in ur calling range pf
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Old 09-22-2009, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 overpair is getting c/r on the turn

he's bsing you a ton here. call at least or click it back
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Old 09-23-2009, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 overpair is getting c/r on the turn

With stack sizes I don't think a check on the turn is that terrible. As played he is repping a very narrow range, as James said, weird played AA-QQ or a boat. I think calling once is ok, but I think is villian is good he will shove 90% of rivers...
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 overpair is getting c/r on the turn

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I think calling once is ok, but I think is villian is good he will shove 90% of rivers...
exactly this is what I thought and actually I did call turn and I wasn´t sure if I should call river. My plan was folding on a blank cause I don´t think his bluffing frequenzy is that high cause I do have boats and 9x and sometimes overpairs in my range too.
So youre saying: if we call turn we should call a blank river too?
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Old 09-23-2009, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 overpair is getting c/r on the turn

I'm saying I'm a nit and I fold the turn because I beat 0 hands in his value range and he has to be bluffing too many hands to make this call down fine.
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