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[aejones]

PokerStars Game #42783989849: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50 USD) - 2010/04/17 5:12:50 ET
Table 'Biarmia' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: aejones ($5793 in chips)
Seat 3: faughtandone ($1371 in chips)
Seat 4: jmoney10587 ($8263 in chips)
Seat 5: mrienader ($2000 in chips)
Seat 6: kingsofcards ($5000 in chips)
Seat 7: Progamerrrr ($6023 in chips)
Seat 8: SyrahJenNe ($5000 in chips)
Seat 9: E1ephant ($6792 in chips)
mrienader: posts small blind $25
kingsofcards: posts big blind $50
Shippotamus: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aejones [Jd Jh]
Progamerrrr: raises $100 to $150
SyrahJenNe: folds
E1ephant: folds
aejones: calls $150
faughtandone: folds
jmoney10587: raises $425 to $575
mrienader: folds
kingsofcards: folds
Progamerrrr: folds
aejones: calls $425
*** FLOP *** [5c 8s 7h]
aejones: checks
jmoney10587: bets $1200
aejones:

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[bw07507]

I don't think you can ever flat this pre with the intention of folding this flop. He probably perceives your range to be a lot of mid PPs and AJs, AQs, KQs, JTs, T9s. I like flatting flop and ch/jamming most turns. If you jam the flop I don't think you ever get called by worse other than maybe TT since theres not many 6x hands in your range and the board is rainbow.

Also, thoughts on backraising pre and getting it in since its going to be such a bitch to play this oop and your hand is slightly underrepped?

[TwoSHAE]

dont think he cbets AK and his light 3betting range is doing pretty decent on this flop. I think pre is fine and I'd fold the flop

[aejones]

Originally Posted by bw07507

I don't think you can ever flat this pre with the intention of folding this flop. He probably perceives your range to be a lot of mid PPs and AJs, AQs, KQs, JTs, T9s. I like flatting flop and ch/jamming most turns. If you jam the flop I don't think you ever get called by worse other than maybe TT since theres not many 6x hands in your range and the board is rainbow.

Also, thoughts on backraising pre and getting it in since its going to be such a bitch to play this oop and your hand is slightly underrepped?

I don't think this can be true. I don't think OOP I can call that wide preflop. Even at 25-50 these ranges are pretty well defined. He's either got it or he doesn't, and if he's got it I'm in trouble and if he doesn't I'm not doing so hot on this board. That is why I posted this hand though, because I think I'm fucked and it feels so nitty to fold this.

Against an unknown though, I think I'm just in trouble against his hands that bet that flop. He can't expect that I'm looking to fold that flop very often... which means I might just have to do just that.

[klink-]

yeah i think you can fold here, you don't know his barreling tendencies or if he even cbets worse on this board, you don't know his squeezing range vs. a utg open in the first place (there are fr players who don't squeeze AK/QQ/JJ in this spot with the intention of stacking off) and you are oop.

[King Dan]

id fold but its real gay

[desire]

Originally Posted by King Dan

id fold but its real gay

this, i think spots like these come up every now and then, even in 6max where you basically decide to take a flop pre only trying to improve and still have to fold when he c-bets just because he isn't c-betting this board light and you're either trying to win a close one or gonna get it in with like 8%

[vitti]

Originally Posted by King Dan

id fold but its real gay

#2

and i can't sleep a week cause of it :C

[jungleman]

pray

[aejones]

pray

AND

a) fold

b) call (..pray for jack?)

c) ALL IN !