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Old 02-07-2010, 11:30 PM
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Default 2/4NL JJ thiiin valuebets

Hello,

villain is the same idiot as in the other hand I postet. 49/10/1.1/33
Is the Turnbet ok? And is the Riverbet too thin?

Thank you very much.
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NL Holdem $4(BB) Replayer
SB ($493)
BB ($1,263)
Hero ($400)
UTG+1 ($1,707)
CO ($512)
BTN ($497)

Dealt to Hero J J

Hero raises to $14, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $12, fold

FLOP ($32) 7 T 7

SB checks, Hero bets $22, SB calls $22

TURN ($76) 7 T 7 Q

SB checks, Hero bets $50, SB calls $50

RIVER ($176) 7 T 7 Q 2

SB checks, Hero bets $120, SB calls $120
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Old 02-08-2010, 05:43 AM
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Default Re: 2/4NL JJ thiiin valuebets

id bet like 55 here to induce since every draw wiffed plus he might fold a hand like middle pocket pairs and Tx to a larger bet. Im never checking though.
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Old 02-08-2010, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: 2/4NL JJ thiiin valuebets

Betting turn & river for value is ok. I like the bet size on the river.
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Old 02-08-2010, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: 2/4NL JJ thiiin valuebets

looks good, the thing to consider about ur betsizin would be what size ur betting the turn/river with AK, xxhh, type hands, if ud bet 165, bet 165 here wit JJ, if u bet 120 with that range, bet 120
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Old 02-08-2010, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: 2/4NL JJ thiiin valuebets

looks fine if he's capable of calling with Tx a fair amount of the time
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Old 02-08-2010, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: 2/4NL JJ thiiin valuebets

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looks good, the thing to consider about ur betsizin would be what size ur betting the turn/river with AK, xxhh, type hands, if ud bet 165, bet 165 here wit JJ, if u bet 120 with that range, bet 120
uh i don't think this is true at all... whats the point of standardizing your bet sizing vs. a fish that isn't thinking about any of this stuff. im pretty sure if you bet small with air on every flop and potted it with strong hands he would never notice.

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Old 02-09-2010, 02:06 AM
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uh i don't think this is true at all... whats the point of standardizing your bet sizing vs. a fish that isn't thinking about any of this stuff. im pretty sure if you bet small with air on every flop and potted it with strong hands he would never notice.
my b, thought it was a reg for some reason?
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Old 02-09-2010, 08:21 AM
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Default Re: 2/4NL JJ thiiin valuebets

Thanks a lot, I wasn`t sure if it was too close maybe.
He called with AA btw, I felt stupid for a second. Well...
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Old 02-21-2010, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: 2/4NL JJ thiiin valuebets

I'd play it the exact same. Maybe a bit bigger on the flop and turn given the drawy texture and his fishiness. The river valuebet is a great size since he is going to get curious with Tx most of the time, which has more combos then 7x/TT/77 or surpise overpairs. He could conceivable c/c the river with a hand as weak as 99 or 88 here.

I'm really not a fan of trying to bet the river smallish to induce anything from this guy with a busted flush draw/98 who seems to play loose and passive from the limited stats given. I'm sure he dumps his weaker draws (gutters) on the turn a decent amount.
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Old 02-23-2010, 09:28 AM
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nh... I'd bet even more on the river... he's never folding a T, I doubt he's ever folding 88-99...
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