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Old 01-09-2009, 10:52 PM
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Default 3/6 river action (and maybe turn too)

i dont have a lot of history with this reg. i think hes pretty bad. but he somehow manages to have a winrate above 0 over 50k hands.

he is 22/11 with a super low 3bet%. he raises cbets 9% of the time and checkraises the flop 5% of the time.

i feel both the flop and turn are pretty standard. on the river he bets a stupid amount and while i dont know if he can read hands, i feel my hand is pretty face up. can we jam here? i figured i could get a cry call from AJhh and AQ and fold out everything else that wasnt 44 or 22. but apparently im a bit rusty on my first day back.

well i guess i can shove the turn too.....

Party Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
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Hero (UTG): $1,094.50
BTN: $600
SB: $630.85
BB: $1,911.74

Pre-Flop: A K dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $22, BTN folds, SB calls $19, BB folds

Flop: ($50) 4 A 2 (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $31, SB raises to $70.50, Hero calls $39.50

Turn: ($191) 2 (2 Players)
SB bets $120, Hero calls $120

River: ($431) 8 (2 Players)
SB bets $162
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Old 01-10-2009, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 river action (and maybe turn too)

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he raises cbets 9% of the time and checkraises the flop 5% of the time.
honestly, i don't think shoving turn or calling the river are particularly great ideas
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Old 01-10-2009, 11:06 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 river action (and maybe turn too)

Weird bet sizing on river, im actually kind of worried because of his bet sizing that seems like he wants calls. Not sure why he wouldnt bet more on river though .. I'm guessin he has a hand like AJ or AT with his river bet that he wanted to not be blown off his tp by checking and having you bet huge...

i probably just call and make a note for next time what kind of hands he takes this line with. I dont think shoving the river is terrible if he is making calls with hands like AT,AJ,AQ which he might do since it really looks like you have a busted flush draw a lot of the time

I think it'd be a much sicker spot if he bet like pot on river, which I'd probably fold to
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:19 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 river action (and maybe turn too)

Jam? No way! Guy seems pretty nitty postflop and pretty passive preflop so he can definitely have A2 and A4 here, and I don't think he'd play AT or something that marginal in such a strong manner. If he bet 300ish on the river I probably fold, but I think calling here is fine. Shoving is definitely out of the option I think, unless you have some huge history (but if you did, you'd post about it probably).
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Old 01-12-2009, 04:23 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 river action (and maybe turn too)

he showed up with AQo
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:27 AM
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i was close
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Old 01-14-2009, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 river action (and maybe turn too)

but you didnt say shove!
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Old 01-15-2009, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 river action (and maybe turn too)

Nobody clicks back flop?
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 river action (and maybe turn too)

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Nobody clicks back flop?
You shouldn't click back the flop if there isn't any history where villain could have air or it could get played back at. Unless of course, you really thought minraising was the best way to put money in the pot.

OP, I like your line and probably play it the same. If you knew his c/r range on the flop included some Ax hands I wouldn't mind just 3betting the flop and trying to get it in then.
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