400NL TP vs checkraising machine

[Zografa]

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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MP: $421.25
CO: $550.70
BTN: $537.10
SB: $512.20
BB: $442
Hero (UTG): $406

Pre-Flop: J A dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $12, 3 folds, SB calls $10, BB folds

Flop: ($28) A 2 5 (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $21.25, SB raises to $62, Hero calls $40.75

Turn: ($152) K (2 Players)
SB bets $104, Hero calls $104

River: ($360) 3 (2 Players)
SB bets $334.20 and is All-In

Villain here is jj_raise. He has HUUUUUUUUUUUGE c/r on flop - 27% from big sample. His call open from BB is 13% and also 3bets 5% vs my position. Fish is on the button other guys are regs.

Ive seen this line from him before but i am kinda lost with a hand like mine. Should i call him all the way given the fact that if he c/r flop he usually goes bet turn shove river a lot of the time?

[petenilson]

I mean we are UTG and he is in the SB. His range should be the tightest here than other situation we could find our selves in. Also I dont see people mucking about a lot with UTG cbets on boards like these. We just hit this flop to often for him to think its gonna be a good spot to bluff raises here. You might be situationally miss-applying your read here. I think you are strong enough of the time in this spot to be folding on the turn at least.

edit. if thats your read though and your happy calling turn I suppose you should be happy to call the river?

[Zografa]

my opinion changed after the hand but when i was playing i was thinking wow super ez call down
now i think more like you so i wanted to have more opinions on the hand if fold turn is ok... and also that if i call flop and turn im calling the river(more opinions here pls)

also is something changing if we had AQ? or A5?

[c0gnAc]

I think this might be a spot to checkback the flop. You are not getting 3 streets from anything anyway and you prevent yourself from getting in ugly spots like this.
If I decide to go with the hand I prefer shipping turn expecting to be good some of the time vs QJ/KJ/KQcc.
I'd get in A5/A2 on the flop since there is almost no chance we are beat and I wouldnt want to see a club turn...

[Birchinio]

Originally Posted by c0gnAc

I think this might be a spot to checkback the flop. You are not getting 3 streets from anything anyway and you prevent yourself from getting in ugly spots like this.
If I decide to go with the hand I prefer shipping turn expecting to be good some of the time vs QJ/KJ/KQcc.
I'd get in A5/A2 on the flop since there is almost no chance we are beat and I wouldnt want to see a club turn...

Isn't AJ the same as A5/A2 here? Surely he's rarely flatting 22/55 vs our UTG range and does he raise flop with AQ?

I think it depends on whether he thinks you're gonna fold Ax and whether you think he has 22/55 in his range.. seeing him raise flop bet turn then giveup in the past makes it easier to fold.

[c0gnAc]

if he has 22/55 he also has 33/44 which he will probably play the same. A5/A2 is much better than AJ since i think he can very easily have AK 4 value which didnt want to 3bet the UTG open...

[grogheadflow]

Yeah for me in late position VS his traits, bet call and you have the nuts. From early position, check it back.

[ultrasPNT]

I've played a lot vs this c#*k s#cker and for me it's a b/c flop and you have to make a decision on the turn, the fact is he is a thin value bettor, also a bluffer, also a spewtarded monkey, the river spot is very very hard to play, it's obv your hand is Ax+, flushdraw misses and if you don't see him as a thin value bettor you'll probably hero call him so he might not spew this river so it's closer to a river fold, however A5 and A3 are calls.

[luckychewy]

seems like a fold, only beating fds or really ambitious multistreet bluffs that don't seem to occur that often. later street hud stats would be more important here than flop ones since 27% flop cr isnt a good reason to call down if turn bet only comes with a similar frequency.

[Imrahil]

I think villain can have AK/AQ here a lot.