got a pair, found a fd

[aejones]

zooomer, no history

anyone 4b pre? anyone bet the flop? anyone got a good play on the turn?

~700 effective

PokerStars Hand #79809992925 begins at 2012/05/02 5:50 pm
Seat 1 (ivanildo) is the dealer
ForbidMuck posts the small blind 2.50
kosseg posts the big blind 5.00
Bluf Bunny folds
aejones raises to 10.00
pappadogg folds
ivanildo calls 10.00
ForbidMuck folds
kosseg raises to 52.50
aejones calls 42.50 Ad Q of something black i reckon
ivanildo calls 42.50
Flop: [Td 7d Ah]
kosseg checks
aejones checks
ivanildo bets 85.00
kosseg folds
aejones calls 85.00
Turn: [9d]
aejones checks
ivanildo bets 185.00

[RunAndGun28]

why are you 2x'ing from MP?

[RunAndGun28]

It seems to me like you are trying to put yourself in an impossible position. The 3bettor checks and gives up the lead, then you check, you let the overcaller bet then you call? Seems you are defining your hand as part of a narrow range that always appears relatively weak. I wouldn't wanna check this flop without AdXd after the 3bettor gives up initiative, otherwise I'd feel obligated to call turn/call river a lot... It's so annoying when we are holding exactly what it looks like we have.

[King Dan]

call/fold river

[aejones]

Originally Posted by King Dan

call/fold river

anything you like bluff shoving? anything you like doing on a non board pairing diamond?

[RunAndGun28]

Originally Posted by King Dan

call/fold river

This just seems bad to me. Easily exploitable if you are taking this line then folding brick rivers. The turn call is probably -EV in this case, I can't even imagine a guy in this spot not jamming every non diamond river unless he's a weak player.

[klink10k]

don't think u can do anything but call on the turn, can do a bunch of stuff on various rivers though.

[King Dan]

shrug, got to call the turn and fold the river with something. it's not like you are high up into your range

[baba]

Agree with RunandGun for the most part. If you know villian is a one and done type guy then c/c the flop is fine and almost certainly best as you let him have his stab with his air. If villian is tough and likely to make you life hell I much prefer just betting. Im sure if your amazing like saucec then c/c this flop verus aggro regs can be optimal. However for me personally, i'd rather make the hand slightly easier to play and reduce the chance of me making a huge mistake later on.

[mootang]

first thought was duh, call.

but...there is $430 behind after he bets turn. is cr turn ai out of Q?

This would be on the lowest end of hands in our range that we get here with that cr ai on the turn (we could get here w/ sets, 2pr, and flushes some % of time and play it like this). but it may look to face up as exactly what we have but at same time it represents a small % of our range that we actually play it like this. the benefit of cc is it keeps his range wider but this isnt exactly an ideal situation to be in. oop with some questionable river decisions left. I certainly dont think it would be that bad but idk lol.