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Old 02-03-2010, 10:00 AM
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Default MD deep

Donking villain is a not that great japanese player running 26/20/6.1% 3bet over 488 hands and donks about 6% flops
Raising villain is red pro Sascha Biorac, who is decent but a mass tabling nit imo, running at 20/16/4% 3bet over 1.3K hands
I got a somewhat aggresive dynamic with both players on multiple tables, and i think they vieuw me as a decent player with a spazz now and then!
I have bin fairly tight at this table because i wass pretty much carddead the whole session!

Could you guys help me out with this hand, especially flop and turn?

Thnx!





No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB
Hero (CO) ($768.50)
Button ($875.55)
SB ($488)
BB ($757)
UTG ($194)
MP ($415)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7, 6
1 fold, MP bets $14, Hero calls $14, Button calls $14, 1 fold, BB calls $10

Flop: ($58) 9, 6, 5 (4 players)
BB bets $28, 1 fold, Hero calls $28, Button calls $28

Turn: ($142) J (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $88, Button raises $256, 1 fold, Hero calls $168

River: ($654) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

Total pot: $654

Results below:
Button had 10, 8 (high card, Jack).
Hero had 7, 6 (one pair, sixes).
Outcome: Hero won $651
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Old 02-03-2010, 05:08 PM
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Default Re: MD deep

I like raising the flop here. Nobody is folding a NFD here and you have him in pretty bad shape. With your wacky image, you are getting people to put it in very light here. Versus any hand, you are doing very well. If you are in position, my line might change though.
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Old 02-04-2010, 08:21 AM
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Default Re: MD deep

Our outs are very obvious so we're not gonna get paid off when we flat. However, we're doing fine against almost any hand so I'd raise the flop and get it in.

The turn is interesting, I'd probably go ahead and put a bet out there, because I think it's so unlikely we're going to get raised. The BTN should realise he can never raise light here after he overcalls the flop, cause he's only repping like JJ or J9 or so. And I don't think UTG is going for a c/r here. This way we can control the potsize a bit, and also keep having the initiative, cause c/c sucks cause our outs are so obvious.

I would not shove the turn but decide between call/fold depending on our direct odds. I just don't expect BTN here to be bluffing cause his hand is defined as superweak after the overcall on the flop and he should realise he can't raise light
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Old 02-04-2010, 10:52 AM
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Sorry for being late replying to this, I'd always just straight raise the flop for me. As played, I'd also bet the turn with the intention of firing all rivers as well. His turn raise would shock me and I wouldn't have expected it.... he has to be FOS a bunch, but our SD value allows us to flat, whereas if we had T8s or something instead I'd be more inclined to jam.

BTW I think in his shoes he should really be following up on the river.... like him calling the turn isn't bad, raising the turn and shoving river isn't bad, but the inbetween option he went for is bleeding money IMO given you have a ton of pair+GS+FD etc in your range and you are literally never flatting some nutted hand.
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Old 02-04-2010, 02:13 PM
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Sorry for being late replying to this, I'd always just straight raise the flop for me. As played, I'd also bet the turn with the intention of firing all rivers as well. His turn raise would shock me and I wouldn't have expected it.... he has to be FOS a bunch, but our SD value allows us to flat, whereas if we had T8s or something instead I'd be more inclined to jam.

BTW I think in his shoes he should really be following up on the river.... like him calling the turn isn't bad, raising the turn and shoving river isn't bad, but the inbetween option he went for is bleeding money IMO given you have a ton of pair+GS+FD etc in your range and you are literally never flatting some nutted hand.
If villan had just called on the turn, what rivers will you NOT bomb?
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Old 02-04-2010, 02:49 PM
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I wouldn't bomb an 8 his shoes, everything else is game

edit: meh probably an 8 as well thinking about it. everything
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