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Old 03-21-2010, 01:01 PM
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Default Sick Spot with KK in rr pot DEEP

Whats up guys,

Have an aggro history with this guy which is why I bet 3 streets big to let him call with a bluffcatcher. What do I do to the river shove though? I dont like paying 300 bucks to see whether he has an 8 or a Full House. But can I fold getting these odds? No real draws he can have missed either.................


Party, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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UTG: $492.95
CO: $1,425.10
BTN: $651.45
SB: $268.50
Hero (BB): $1,736.75

Pre-Flop: Kc Ks dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, CO raises to $21, 2 folds, Hero raises to $72, CO calls $51

Flop: ($147) 4d Qc 8h (2 Players)
Hero bets $100, CO calls $100

Turn: ($347) 8s (2 Players)
Hero bets $250, CO calls $250

River: ($847) 5s (2 Players)
Hero bets $666, CO raises to $1,003.10 and is All-In

Hero??
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Old 03-21-2010, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: Sick Spot with KK in rr pot DEEP

Looking over this hand a few days later, it becomes a clear fold. But I don't think I have ever folded during actual play. This is never a bluff and I don't know if villan is doing this w 44 tbh (some people are just really nitty deep). With the SICK odds you are getting (337 to win 2516), I can't imagine villan ever thinking you are folding. If you called I can't fault you, but if you are ever good here, I will shit my pants.

Your big bet should let villan know that you like your hand... unless this is a sick level by villan, folding is clearly the best line.
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Old 03-21-2010, 04:30 PM
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I did fold and think it was the right play. Really annoying though. He definately shoves 44 on the river
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Old 03-22-2010, 02:06 AM
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well.. LOL at the odds. Does he pay off three with KQ / AQ ? It's a seriously dry board and u barrel 3 OOP deep.
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Old 03-22-2010, 04:22 AM
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Well I barrrel these boards in 3 bet pots more than most because as you say regs will fold anythiung but the nuts. And he has seen me barrel him before and in this particular session I was owning the table with aggression. What line would you take against a good reg with aggro history with my hand`?
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Old 03-22-2010, 02:43 PM
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Well I barrrel these boards in 3 bet pots more than most because as you say regs will fold anythiung but the nuts. And he has seen me barrel him before and in this particular session I was owning the table with aggression. What line would you take against a good reg with aggro history with my hand`?
Yah personal decision. I am not often deep (games break a lot on iPoker) and thus I play pretty straightforward OOP deep.

I think your line is fine and the only alternative w/ history is to check turn to induce and c/c it down. He'll think you'll cbet this board with close to 100% of your range, and him having stacks and position he's quite likely to float you. Given aggressive reads he's probably going to barrel turn and river to get you off 99-JJ and weak queens.
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:58 PM
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Yah personal decision. I am not often deep (games break a lot on iPoker) and thus I play pretty straightforward OOP deep.

I think your line is fine and the only alternative w/ history is to check turn to induce and c/c it down. He'll think you'll cbet this board with close to 100% of your range, and him having stacks and position he's quite likely to float you. Given aggressive reads he's probably going to barrel turn and river to get you off 99-JJ and weak queens.
I totally agree these are the only 2 viable lines I can take. Given history and reads I chose my line and probably saved my remaining 300 bucks by doing so.
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