TP + FD, multiway.

[PlsTilt]

Ok this is the type of situation where I just don't know what I should do on the flop.
I Open preflop because MP + CO are total nits, BTN + SB + BB are donks.
In this particular hand I think his flop raise is very strong, I have little Fold Equity and I wish to keep dominated draws on board.
Can I take any alternative / better lines? It feels like I am turning a strong hand into a poor draw (fit or fold turn).


I figure on the turn fold is the only valid option as my hand is crushed versus his valuebet range and his bluff frequency can't be very high on this multiway flop, me having the nutflushdraw.

READS:
MP very likely has a PP in this situation, SB can have any speculative hand, (I wish to keep him in the pot) and BB is able to complete the BB here with a wide range of suited hands, pp's and broadways.

Notes on BB: he cbets half pot with flopped full, he can raise a cbet (30 ->63$) and fold to a flop 3bet on A92dd board. Stats BB: 25/6/3.5 flop c/r 11%. High second barrel freq, about 29% turn aggression.

Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $393.60
Hero (UTG): $461
MP: $394
CO: $83.70
BTN: $194
SB: $349

Pre-Flop: 7 A dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $14, MP calls $14, 2 folds, SB calls $12, BB calls $10

Flop: ($56) A 5 T (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $36, 2 folds, BB raises to $105, Hero calls $69 (?)

Turn: ($266) 4 (2 Players)
BB bets $274.60 and is All-In, Hero ??

[JamesMa]

With the read you've given, it seems like you put him on a big hand here, maybe something like AT,A5,55 and based on his turn bet, u arent getting the right odds. I also think its not all that likely he's decided to try to push you off your hand with air, so prety much he needs to have a flush draw here(KQ,QJ,KJ etc.) or a hand that crushes you pretty bad by the turn... After stoving the equity of the hands I mentioned you have 33% equity in the hand if he does play his flush draws like this so it really depends on if you think villain is capable of playing his fds on the turn with overbetting

[PlsTilt]

Originally Posted by JamesMa

With the read you've given, it seems like you put him on a big hand here, maybe something like AT,A5,55 and based on his turn bet, u arent getting the right odds. I also think its not all that likely he's decided to try to push you off your hand with air, so prety much he needs to have a flush draw here(KQ,QJ,KJ etc.) or a hand that crushes you pretty bad by the turn... After stoving the equity of the hands I mentioned you have 33% equity in the hand if he does play his flush draws like this so it really depends on if you think villain is capable of playing his fds on the turn with overbetting

Actually I am OK with a turn fold.

It's more the hand in general. If I c/c flop and c/f turn with top pair + nutflushdraw it feels sooo awkward. On the flop my hand looks like a monster, but is it true that bet-3betting the flop degrades my potential monster into a semibluff with 9ish outs equity when called?

What would be your most prefered flop line given positions and the pot being multiway?

[playforfoodz]

i don't call this flop, i min 3bet it

[cMeWinS]

I think turn is probably a fold if you played it like this, but I'd rather just get it in on the flop than fold on the turn. Against AQ you are 46/54 and against A5 you are 50/50 (flop numbers).