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01-29-2012, 08:35 AM
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Consigliere
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10nl: AK vs flop c/r 3bp
Villain is unkown but obviously bad. If he was more reggy and full stacked i might jam flop but i think i have to fold here? Anyone take a different line?
i hate my sizing here, i wish i had bet bigger so i could jam diamond, A and K turns.
PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
CO: $15.71
BTN: $12.50
SB: $6.90
Hero (BB): $10.91
UTG: $5.04
MP: $4.58
SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A  K
fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, SB calls $0.60
Flop: ($1.80, 2 players) 2  7  Q
SB checks, Hero bets $0.95, SB raises to $2.10, fold
SB wins $3.52
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01-29-2012, 08:58 AM
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grindin
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Re: 10nl: AK vs flop c/r 3bp
im never jamming and calling is no good either.
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01-29-2012, 09:54 AM
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Mandatory barrel spot.
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Re: 10nl: AK vs flop c/r 3bp
Sizing is good, smaller if anything. Qx boards smash 'flat 3bets oop' range, and you just have to give him credit.
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01-29-2012, 11:49 AM
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Consigliere
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Re: 10nl: AK vs flop c/r 3bp
I dont like the plan to jam d turns or jam AK vs. a reg. You should probably reconsider that one.
I see players constantly getting it in on the flop etc with AK and every time they do it I think 'what a fish.' Ak is not a made hand, and if you're suffering heat on this board at these stakes you are way behind without an evil read.
Also as played it's just fine. However I think a slightly bigger cbet would give us more credibility and eliminate more bluffs from his range. Ask yourself what you would bet here with AQ and then bet about 1-2bbs less than that. Bet out and when raised fold without reads. Nice hand.
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01-29-2012, 12:44 PM
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Consigliere
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Re: 10nl: AK vs flop c/r 3bp
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Originally Posted by JohnniePunani
I dont like the plan to jam d turns or jam AK vs. a reg. You should probably reconsider that one.
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A ton of regs at this limit like to make a lot of small raises as bluffs in 3 bet pots. If i had a read that they would take a showdown line with a top pair hand here i think jamming would be pretty strong. This isn't something i'd try vs this kind of guy tho.
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01-29-2012, 12:47 PM
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Consigliere
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Re: 10nl: AK vs flop c/r 3bp
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Originally Posted by grogheadflow
Sizing is good, smaller if anything. Qx boards smash 'flat 3bets oop' range, and you just have to give him credit.
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what is your plan on diamond turns? i was thinking bigger so i could just jam. Are you checking back and trying to get to s/d (folding to a river bet)
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01-29-2012, 01:07 PM
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Consigliere
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Re: 10nl: AK vs flop c/r 3bp
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Originally Posted by False Dawn
A ton of regs at this limit like to make a lot of small raises as bluffs in 3 bet pots. If i had a read that they would take a showdown line with a top pair hand here i think jamming would be pretty strong. This isn't something i'd try vs this kind of guy tho.
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But you're ahead of a bluff so isn't calling better then?
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01-29-2012, 01:34 PM
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Consigliere
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Re: 10nl: AK vs flop c/r 3bp
@johnniepunani, they might be info raising a bunch of hands like pocket pairs, diamonds, they are rarely to have terrible equity vs AK in this spot. Having them fold is a pretty nice win.
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01-29-2012, 01:53 PM
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Godfather
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Re: 10nl: AK vs flop c/r 3bp
Going through villain's hand combos by hand and not using flopzilla or anything really helped me feel 100% comfortable in this spot. Then it's just a matter of how often does villain call with hands worse than Qx if you want to turn barrel and how often does it have to work.
I think c-bet is fine but I check back here readless.
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01-29-2012, 01:57 PM
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Consigliere
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Re: 10nl: AK vs flop c/r 3bp
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Originally Posted by False Dawn
@johnniepunani, they might be info raising a bunch of hands like pocket pairs, diamonds, they are rarely to have terrible equity vs AK in this spot. Having them fold is a pretty nice win.
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The frequency with which people call those hands is wayyy higher than the frequency they raise them...just sayin.
And any pair is 3-1 vs. you so I think bluff shoving is really bad.
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