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Old 02-01-2010, 05:15 PM
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Default 25nl bluffcatcher!

no reads on villan.
again i feel like if i call flop i shud call down, and i see tht this is a leak in my game?
i take it its bad 2 fold turn after calling flop? shud i just be calling down here?

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SB: $37.46
BB: $10.47
Hero (UTG): $25
CO: $39.28
BTN: $56.24

Pre-Flop: T A dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $0.85, CO calls $0.85, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.05) J 4 T (2 Players)
Hero bets $1.25, CO raises to $3.75, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($9.55) 8 (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets $5.50, Hero ????
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Old 02-01-2010, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: 25nl bluffcatcher!

Not sure I would cbet here with 2nd pair and a backdoor flush draw oop. With one over and a backdoor fd, though, I don't mind the flop call. But I don't mind a fold without reads. Fold turn unimproved, as played.
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Old 02-01-2010, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: 25nl bluffcatcher!

As played I'd fold turn.
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Old 02-02-2010, 03:49 AM
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fold imo
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Old 02-02-2010, 05:10 AM
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Default Re: 25nl bluffcatcher!

that turn is a fizzold as played
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Old 02-02-2010, 06:09 AM
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Default Re: 25nl bluffcatcher!

you should be folding the flop exp with no reads. even if you are somehow right that he is bluffing his range (even his simibluffing range) still crushes you. the hand is almost guaranteed impossible to play past the flop and you should consider that when making the flop call. it is not our job to catch everyone who bluffs us sometimes you just cant do anything about it. the turn is a fold but the real leak is your flop play.
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Old 02-02-2010, 07:02 AM
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Default Re: 25nl bluffcatcher!

bet/fold bigger on the flop, I really hate your flop call and it's a leak if you don't have plan/reads/history.
If you think he's able to bluff/semi-bluff with a wide range definitely go for a c/c on the flop, you have good backdoor outs and somewhat decent showdown value.
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Old 02-03-2010, 05:17 AM
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Default Re: 25nl bluffcatcher!

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bet/fold bigger on the flop, I really hate your flop call and it's a leak if you don't have plan/reads/history..
Is it spew to call and check to him on the turn, planning a fold to bet or lead river if river blanks?

Personally I never cbet this flop as it hits his range too hard and i don't think i'll be able to pick up the pot- we're basically turning our hand into a bluff.
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Old 02-03-2010, 07:21 AM
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Default Re: 25nl bluffcatcher!

The only reason people call c/r is to be kept from being exploitable, however I would argue there are not enough player's c/r enough w/ air to worry about being exploited in the micros

ez fold imo
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Old 02-03-2010, 09:43 AM
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Default Re: 25nl bluffcatcher!

I would fold flop because I think he either has us crushed or he's bluffing and I think he'll barrel enough times to making it to expensive for us to see.

As played I would fold the turn.
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