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Old 02-05-2012, 08:20 PM
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Default 25NL deep 4B pot OOP with QQ

BTN: $86.24
Hero (SB): $63.37
BB: $34.62

Pre-Flop: Q Q dealt to Hero (SB)
BTN raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.80, BB folds, BTN raises to $6.50, Hero calls $3.70

Flop: ($13.40) 3 5 4 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $6.75, Hero calls $6.75

Turn: ($26.90) 6 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $12.50, Hero calls $12.50

River: ($51.90) 9 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $43, Hero ?

Villain 35/24 over 60 or so. Opening wide everywhere, so his button range doesn't seem to be something like 90% here. Stats show 40% spread across positions. He has 4B once before when OOP, but his sizing was 20bb rather than ~26bb (the guy 3Betting him was only 120bb deep though).

I feel like I should fold turn, otherwise I have to call this river since any Ax hearts should just be able to ship rivers. But then he might also have 10 or so combos of flushes.

If I'm in villains shoes with Ahx air should I be taking the bet turn shove rivers line as a default?
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: 25NL deep 4B pot OOP with QQ

I think i prefer a c/raise on the flop.

As played I call because villains range is polarize here. If i dont call a blank river im folding turn.
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:33 AM
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Default Re: 25NL deep 4B pot OOP with QQ

Eh, I mean our hand looks good and I agree his range is polarized but I just doubt most villains have the stones to be bluffing here or overrepping TT/JJ sooo deep. I think he has just about exactly what his line says, meaning AKhh/AA/KK and I think we should fold the river. but in game I would have a lot of trouble doing it if I wasn't playing my A game. We are so deep here I really think the reverse implied odds of calling preflop oop is a big mistake. Maybe we should consider 5betting or folding?
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: 25NL deep 4B pot OOP with QQ

this is kinda similar to this hand:

http://www.leggopoker.com/forums/mic...oop-17102.html

however the board in this hand is different in that he has more value hands (random 7x or Q5hh 4bets) & probably more bluffs - Axo is a really common hand to 4bet bluff with, so he may feel compelled to barrel off with the Ah in his hand.

at higher stakes it'll be hard to fold this hand at any point given most 3-handed dynamics, but i think people play in line enough at 25nl to warrant a turn fold (i said basically the same thing in the other thread)

by the way, without further reads i don't like c/ring the flop. most of the time you'll get it in really bitched.
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: 25NL deep 4B pot OOP with QQ

I agree with mythrilfox on everything. c/r flop would be really bad.
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