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02-23-2010, 07:36 AM
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25nl:qq
Just sat down No reads.
Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
MP: $88.31
CO: $49.25
BTN: $40.91
SB: $48.37
Hero (BB): $25
UTG: $15.46
Pre-Flop: Q  Q  dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3, MP calls $2.25
Flop: ($6.10) J  A  T  (2 Players)
Hero bets $3.75, MP calls $3.75
Turn: ($13.60) 3  (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks
River: ($13.60) Q  (2 Players)
Hero bets $7.50, MP raises to $36.40, Hero folds
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02-23-2010, 07:47 AM
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Re: 25nl:qq
Readless I think it's fine.
I bet this turn for value protection a lot though. I think there are more draws/pr+draw type hands than Ax hands in our villains range generally.
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02-23-2010, 08:27 AM
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Don
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Re: 25nl:qq
seems fine. I'm not sure how often I 3bet pre here, but maybe for blind protection purposes it's ok.
i'm not sure about betting turn... against an unknown villain, i probably check
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02-23-2010, 10:33 AM
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Re: 25nl:qq
I think its fine.
c/f turn is good coz he wont bet JK and shit like tht.
River is fine too he might call with some 2pair hands, he is never bluffing when he jams.
@ Dude, what else would you do pre ?? you should be 3betting this very close to 100% of the time.
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02-23-2010, 11:58 AM
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Don
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Re: 25nl:qq
doesn't his continuing range have us crushed when we 3bet? maybe it depends on his fold to 3bet%...
I was thinking on the basis that i wouldn't 3bet AQ without a good reason, so why would i 3bet QQ
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02-23-2010, 12:28 PM
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Re: 25nl:qq
I wouldnt 3bet AQ.
QQ is the 3rd best hand in poker, are you saying you 3bet AA and KK only for value ??
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02-23-2010, 12:34 PM
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Don
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Re: 25nl:qq
well yeah... and AK- that does sound a bit ridiculous- but my 3bet% is 5- quite normal i thinnk?
i'm trying to keep my play as straightforward as possible... i play 2nl
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02-23-2010, 02:46 PM
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Re: 25nl:qq
Quote:
Originally Posted by dudu
well yeah... and AK- that does sound a bit ridiculous- but my 3bet% is 5- quite normal i thinnk?
i'm trying to keep my play as straightforward as possible... i play 2nl
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at 2nl not 3betting QQ will cut very deep into your winrate.
edit- at any level, but especially 2nl.
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02-23-2010, 02:58 PM
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Re: 25nl:qq
You can't have 5% 3-bet with just AA KK & AK... Since those hands constitute 2,1%.
4,8 % = 99+,AJs+,KQs,AKo fyi.
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02-23-2010, 04:32 PM
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Re: 25nl:qq
It looks completely standard to me, wp, imo. I really don't think I like a turn bet because all we can really do is c/f the river if he calls. Would anybody c/c the river after checking the turn?
Last edited by DonkSupreme : 02-23-2010 at 04:40 PM.
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