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Old 08-17-2010, 06:31 PM
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Default 50NL - Bet River?

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CO: $25.55
Hero (BTN): $50.75
SB: $50.00
BB: $158.50
UTG: $31.00
MP: $53.25

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with J T
UTG calls $0.50, MP raises to $2.25, CO calls $2.25, Hero calls $2.25, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.75

Flop: ($9.75) 7 9 2 (4 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($9.75) K (4 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets $6, UTG calls $6, MP folds, CO folds

River: ($21.75) J (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero??

Should I bet here? and if so what size given the range you put the villain on here?
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Old 08-17-2010, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Bet River?

Ehh, I'm not sure if there's any value.

He's probably folding a lower pair than a K when you bet both turn and river. I think he's just always calling with a K so you valuetown yourself a decent amount in this spot. Then again, he limped UTG so if he's a fish then just bet like $10. Target 67/ 98 type hands.
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Old 08-17-2010, 07:50 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Bet River?

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Ehh, I'm not sure if there's any value.

He's probably folding a lower pair than a K when you bet both turn and river. I think he's just always calling with a K so you valuetown yourself a decent amount in this spot. Then again, he limped UTG so if he's a fish then just bet like $10. Target 67/ 98 type hands.
yup, i don't think he folds a K and i doubt he calls w/ much else.
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Old 08-18-2010, 08:59 AM
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Default Re: 50NL - Bet River?

he's sitting on a half stack, and he openlimped from utg, I think we can get value from worse here by betting, his line looks like 9x, 7x or some PPs here, and I think he'll pay us off sometimes with these- I'd bet 12ish.
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Bet River?

He either has a King or a missed draw so what are we getting value from? Will he ever fold better?
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:51 AM
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Default Re: 50NL - Bet River?

I didn't think so, so I checked back. I felt a little nitty doing it, but he showed A8 this time so I wasn't getting called anyway, I just wasn't totally sure if a big enough %age of his range would call the river for it to be profitable.
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Old 08-19-2010, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Bet River?

FWIW, I checked back and he showed A8.
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Old 09-01-2010, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Bet River?

lo he raised UTG with A8 interesting, well theres your answer but in reality. Against villians UTG range a bet is ugly since villian is prob calling with QQ+ I dont think hes calling with any hands we beat so no real sense for a vb in this spot unless he a complete donk and u think hes prob calling with hands that you crush like 55-99 but its really unlikley.
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:58 PM
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lo he raised UTG with A8 interesting, well theres your answer but in reality. Against villians UTG range a bet is ugly since villian is prob calling with QQ+ I dont think hes calling with any hands we beat so no real sense for a vb in this spot unless he a complete donk and u think hes prob calling with hands that you crush like 55-99 but its really unlikley.
Think he limped called.
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Old 09-01-2010, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Bet River?

Would check back, 9-X 7-X type stuff probably isn't callilng twice, K-X you are owning yourself.

Something interesting to think about in these spots is betting like 4 Big Blinds or something silly like that.
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