50nl Kings in the SB

[de-baas]

The reason for not 3betting preflop, witch i usally do, is the limper is the fish in the game and the iso raiser folds 86% to 3bets. I want to keep the fish in the pot

stats gulinator 21/17/3,4 4,4/86 over 3,3k hands( most datamined) vpip pfr af 3b ft3b if you need more stats as me

fish 52/7/1.0 over 40 hands

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NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer Game#1710783354

BingoHoer ($60.50)
Riget ($50)
MaximKos ($51.50)
bardobobo ($96.45)
Frezer13 ($10.75)
GUL1NATOR ($60)

BingoHoer posts (SB) $0.25
Riget posts (BB) $0.50

Dealt to BingoHoer Kh Kc
fold,
bardobobo calls $0.50
fold,
GUL1NATOR raises to $2.25
BingoHoer calls $2
fold, call,

FLOP ($5.50) 4s 3c Td
check,
GUL1NATOR bets $3.50
BingoHoer calls $3.50
fish folds

TURN ($12.50) 4s 3c Td Jc
BingoHoer bets $7.50
GUL1NATOR calls $7.50

RIVER ($27.50) 4s 3c Td Jc Qd
BingoHoer bets $13.50
GUL1NATOR raises to $46.75 (AI)
BingoHoer ??? 33 to call


Im not sure why i lead the turn, i must have though that i was de IR.
What should i do on the river, i bet half the pot because i think he has 1pair alot, and he raises most strong hands on the turn, on a pretty drawy board. the most likely hands he has is QJ ore QT i guess.

[robbyd86]

It looks like two pair or QQ a lot. He's not too fishy so I don't expect him to spew here very often and think we're always beat. Since we didn't 3b pre I guess I''m just c/c the whole down would be my standard. I think I still would 3bet pre imo.

[dougiedan678]

I understand why u just call pre but I still think 3betting is better.
I think that the way to get value from the limper (this is the reason you flatted pre) is by leading the flop. As he has to act b4 the initial raiser.
As played I wouldn't lead turn but if I did I'd bet more. I think we have to fold the river. There are pretty much no draws that missed to we are beat close to 100% of the time here imo.

[DAiMONiON]

wow. your line just looks really donkish. i know you have your reason but i think we all should stick to value play on those micros.
3bet preflop imo.
as played, i am cc this all the way.

[heAdstroMan]

i would always rais preflop here b/cos even if u flop the nuts its harder 2 play wen your out of position, and u want as much muny in the pot as possible wen u hav the nuts preflop, it makes the pot bigger and makes it easier for u 2 get ur money in on most flops. a can c y u hav flatted 2 keep the limper in the pot, and after tht i wud b looking to get it in on the flop b/cos thts where ur hand is strongest. so i wud prob bet/3bet ai on flop.