50nl line check

[heAdstroMan]

villain is a super drooler, for some reason I can't access his stats but i think he played like 50/25ish.

I basically just want to know what you guys think of my line on the flop? I assume pre is fine, I don't want to squeeze and play 300bbs deep oop with T9o, so I think calling is best.

on the flop I am trying to isolate the fish, and make the btn fold all his like KQ and A hi hands. what do you guys think of the line I took here?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($212)
Hero ($203)
UTG ($34.10)
CO ($83.66)
BTN ($133)

Dealt to Hero 9 T

fold, fold, BTN raises to $1, SB calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.50

FLOP ($3) 9 7 7

SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, SB calls $1.50, Hero raises to $6.50, BTN folds, SB calls $5

TURN ($17.50) 9 7 7 2

SB checks, Hero bets $13.50, SB raises to $27, Hero calls $13.50

RIVER ($71.50) 9 7 7 2 8

SB checks, Hero checks

[mythrilfox]

betting flop w/ your hand is reasonable... depends on button's likelihood of cbetting. you really don't want this hand to get checked through on the flop since so many bad cards can come for you on the turn.

i like the flop raise because button is weak like 100% of the time when he cbets half pot, and you can charge SB's draws and weaker pairs and such in addition to getting it HU with him. again, your hand is quite vulnerable and will be difficult to play oop on turns without the lead and 3way, so raising seems like definitely best to me.

turn, meh, i probably just fold. i think he'll show up with 7x here quite a bit and you don't beat any of his value range. fish also have no qualms about c/cing a draw twice or anything either, so i'd usually bet/fold here.

[TylerDurden]

I agree with the above, except you do get over 4/1 so if he's just going to be min-raising and checking rivers then I don't think it's terrible.

On a side note -
Maybe I'm off base here but is squeezing really that bad, I kinda like it actually? We almost always make the Btn play us straight up in this situation (with SB still to act) and we define his range should he choose to continue (rarely do I see players just call in his shoes with all the dead money, but if he starts to flat we can just adjust are sqz tendencies). A lot of the value here will come from when the BTN folds and SB calls - you now have position on the drooler with a bloated pot. Thoughts?

[heAdstroMan]

ye I mean squeezing is def an option. since we're so deep I'm expecting 2 calls like 95% of the time so at the time I just didn't want to play a squeezed pot oop with T9o, T9s I would def squeeze.

[DRUK88]

I wouldn't squeeze because our hand is pretty bad. SB's calling range has a lot of hands that dominate us too.

However, I'd probably call 9Ts still just because of how good it is to play multiway.

As played, I think I prefer to donk out than c/r, feels kind of FPS (although I think it is kinda cool too). Our hand just can't stand being checked through, btn shouldn't really cbet this too light 3way (with a station in the middle giving you better odds). If he's just a cbet monkey then it has more merit though.

[klink10k]

squeezing pre prob bad, c/r flop is bad, leading is even worse dont think you should do anything but c/c

[mythrilfox]

Originally Posted by klink10k

squeezing pre prob bad, c/r flop is bad, leading is even worse dont think you should do anything but c/c

I think this is theoretically correct but not exploitively optimal at these stakes. it's extraordinarily rare that people at these stakes will punish you for c/ring 9T here so it's just far and away better than calling. PFR is folding to this raise an awful lot, and the fish calls weaker pairs and draws an awful lot. don't see what's not to like.