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Old 07-03-2009, 04:47 PM
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Default AA feeling the heat

villain is running 29/23/1 thru 66 hands and so far 0% c/r but only 0/4 times so i don't put much stock in that but figured worth mentioning.

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UTG: $25.58
MP: $43.96
CO: $58.36
Hero (BTN): $28.96
SB: $25.65
BB: $12.50

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with A A
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.75) 7 J T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB raises to $5.50, Hero raises to $9.50, SB raises to $24.90 all in, Hero ???

Should i fold to a c/r here? or should i flat? I feel like it should be an easy fold to a 4bet or maybe not?
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Old 07-03-2009, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: AA feeling the heat

Tough one. Villain doesn't seem maniac enough to do this with AJ unless you have a read that he is on tilt. I'll spew some combinatorics: stuff you don't beat that's in his range are JJ, TT, JTs, 77 (11 combos), stuff you do beat that he might take this line with are AJ, KK, QQ, AA (19 combos). I would definitely give less weight to the latter category even though there are more combos...I think you're good less than 30% of the time so you should fold.
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Old 07-04-2009, 02:35 AM
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Default Re: AA feeling the heat

AA is on top of your perceived range, there are many draws/pairs+draws/top pairs protecting from draws that you are beating against such opponent, so I'm almost always stacking off in this spot.
Against other opponents I may consider calling and it's always cool to have the As.

You should NEVER 3bet/fold in this spot
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Old 07-04-2009, 08:09 AM
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You need to decide when he raises what your plan is.

Make these decisions, on how he is playing. Has he been more aggro on wet boards then dry boards. How many hands is he playing preflop. How aggressive has been from the button. If you can't really answer any of these in sixty hands. The he is obviously playing very straight forward.

I personally against an unknown would flat here, Check turn and look for timing tells and see what odds he gives me. If he bet smallish on the turn and shoves river = nuts. If he bets closer to 2/3 could go either way.

I am not happy getting it in verse an unkown at 25nl. Not enough players play there draws fast enough. To make this spot profitable.
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Old 07-04-2009, 10:52 AM
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, Check turn and look for timing tells and see what odds he gives me.
We are IP.
I personally would push on the flop, he seems aggro enough to be c/r ing draws or pair + draws.
Also cheesy is right, never 3bet/fold.
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:38 AM
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i would call flop esp with the ace of spades in my hand- takes out the possibility he is c/ring the nfd and give u more playability on spade turns. Also dont 3bet the flop w/o knowing what to do to a shove
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Old 07-05-2009, 11:23 AM
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Yeah your right dougie sorry again guys I really need to learn to slow down when and throughly read your guys posts. sorry agian.

Either way with out reads I am not assuming that a passive player is c/r with draws.
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Old 07-05-2009, 01:33 PM
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i would call flop esp with the ace of spades in my hand- takes out the possibility he is c/ring the nfd and give u more playability on spade turns. Also dont 3bet the flop w/o knowing what to do to a shove
well i think i min raised to leave myself room to fold, but i didn't really think it through all the way i guess cause i was still deciding after he shoved.

I ended up calling the shove fwiw and he had 77
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Old 07-06-2009, 05:26 AM
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Default Re: AA feeling the heat

I would just fold the flop to the C/R, the board is super-wet and his range smashes one pair IMO.

3 bet/folding the flop is super spewy so if you are going to 3bet it is to get it in or with total air as a bluff.
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:12 PM
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id be stacking off because i expect to see AJ, KK QQ so often. its hard to hit sets too.
i am flating his cr and on a clean turn ill be continuing with my hand. also its nice to have the As
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