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02-11-2012, 02:06 PM
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Godfather
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Boat, A river 20NL
SB ($24.61)
BB ($20.50)
Hero ($24.36)
UTG+1 ($20)
CO ($26.67)
BTN ($24.79)
Dealt to Hero Q  Q
Hero raises to $0.80, fold, CO calls $0.80, BTN calls $0.80, fold, fold
FLOP ($2.70) 2  2  3
Hero bets $2.20, CO calls $2.20, BTN folds
TURN ($7.10) 2  2  3  2
Hero bets $5.80, CO calls $5.80
RIVER ($18.70) 2  2  3  2  A
Hero ?
I think once he calls turn he has a pp a lot, and since people hardly can't fold boats, I think I have to valuejam river, and it's not even close. Agree? Villain 27/20 after 160 hands. Guy behind him was a whale, so his callingrange pre flop might be wider fwiw.
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02-11-2012, 02:09 PM
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Soldier
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Re: Boat, A river 20NL
I think you open up your opps calling range when you value bet 1/3 pot and call jams. Yes I agree he has a PP a ton, he's going to be pissed he's in this spot with 4s a lot and jam over, or will flat a lot of 8s, 9s, Ts. But when you jam it removes all of his ability to bluff the ace (which he almost never has), and you fold out a ton of PPs. Zebo's theorem at it's finest but you'd be jamming the ace and it sucks for him a ton.
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02-11-2012, 02:13 PM
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Godfather
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Re: Boat, A river 20NL
He ain't jamming worse boats imo,and since I think he has that a lot, I hate 1/3 pot bet
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02-11-2012, 02:14 PM
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Soldier
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Re: Boat, A river 20NL
But he's definitely folding worse to jams.
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02-11-2012, 03:27 PM
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Don
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Re: Boat, A river 20NL
Your Range is going to look pretty strong betting the river, Idk if I'd go all in, I wouldn't hate a smaller or bigger bet size though
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02-12-2012, 03:08 AM
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Godfather
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Re: Boat, A river 20NL
Dunno, smaller looks really like you want a call and that it is for value. If you shove he might think you try to bluff or something on a scare card.
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02-12-2012, 04:23 PM
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Video Producer / Poker Coach
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Re: Boat, A river 20NL
how do you know he's thinking like that? i would just revert to level 1/game theoretical thinking here and bet small unless you had special reason to think you could level him.
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02-12-2012, 04:54 PM
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Godfather
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Re: Boat, A river 20NL
I level myself all the time...
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02-12-2012, 05:37 PM
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Godfather
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Re: Boat, A river 20NL
Bet half pot and snap fold to a raise.
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