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Old 02-26-2012, 01:17 PM
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Default chk raised!!

4 Questions here...
WWYD?? and why??
What would be the worst play here??

Also what kind of hand sample do we need to gauge peoples Restealing range from OOP in the blinds?? (preflop i mean... unrelated i know)



Villains Stats Seat 6: Player6 ( $10.00 USD ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 9, AF: 0.5, Hands: 82
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UTG: $14.53
MP: $10.07
CO: $6.07
Hero (BTN): $19.77
SB: $10
BB: $10

Pre-Flop: J J dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, SB folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) 3 K T (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB raises to $1.20
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Old 02-26-2012, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: chk raised!!

I would probably x back the flop because we dont get much value by betting and there arent many turns we dont want to see.

if villain leads turn Im always calling.

if villain checks turn we can bet.

as played folding is fine here but you could call and hope he gives up.
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: chk raised!!

I don't mind checking flop vs some but if he's a reg and you guys have anything resembling an aggressive dynamic I am definitely betting since your range for betting this flop is so weak.

anyway this is a tough spot. he seems pretty straightforward from his stats so I think just folding now is ok, though I call/reevaluate vs. most.
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: chk raised!!

If I'm against a reg my hands are tied into betting flop because like mythril said my flop betting range is so weak. As played I have no problem folding to his raise. Against the regs I've played they hardly check raise let alone on KTx where their range is usually pretty strong for raising. If I was on a random site in your spot I would call flop call turn in the hopes he was draw heavy because no one ever fires three as a bluff with a draw.
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Old 02-27-2012, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: chk raised!!

I check flop a lot if the T is a 9. Here I just bet and have a super easy fold if he raises as he's got an AF of .5.
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Old 02-27-2012, 05:30 AM
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call the flop raise and raise the turn (except if an ace hits) that will narrow his hand range completely. It sounds a tad spewy but its a ton better than calling every street, in tough spots don't feel bad about making some unorthox plays if you feel its going to reveal your opponent.

If he check the turn check back and call if an ace doesn't hit the board, a lot of players will rebluff if they put you on something light
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Old 02-27-2012, 10:24 AM
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I check flop a lot if the T is a 9.
Why ? Thanks.

I agree with betting the flop to get value for some Tx, spp. But also I don't mind checking back. As a standard ( maybe wrong ) I have the bet.

The are not that many draws ( also the board hasn't a FD) but not that many value combos given that he is 3bets 9%. But with AF 0.5 seems very straightforward. But like mythrilfox said call/reevaluate vs. most is best because his line , for me, don't make a lot of sense for value. Also is 10nl and people don't bluff a lot or bluff one street and shut down, I think.
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Old 02-27-2012, 11:09 AM
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Just because there are less A hi gutter type hands.
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Old 02-27-2012, 11:30 AM
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Thanks
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:52 PM
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Oops af of .5 even over this sample I'm definitely bet folding flop here because they don't raise light here as much as they just always have something good and I can't discount even KQ from being in people's ranges now since more people are taking this line with KQ. I'm a nit and check back this flop a ton with a very large part of my range against tags because they hit the flop more than I do but I'm looking to c-bet way more now and dealing with it later. People still fold more often than I'd expect to c-bets and in this hand lots of worse hands will still call flop. I'm not really thrilled to check call down twice against randoms either. Against a villain like this I think he'll bet once on the turn and giveup a lot or he'll check fold turn. If he check calls you probably have the best hand anyways and win on the river. Hand is more interesting for me if villain is like a 24/20/3. I'd rather c-bet flop for value against them but then I never know when to call river. I feel like I'm just blind calling and I get shown KJ KQ a lot but maybe I'm just being result oriented, I almost always would take the check flop line before so I have little experience with bet/check/call here in the past few months, and you don't have to be good very often to call anyways.

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