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Old 02-11-2008, 10:36 PM
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Default I seem to play draws fast is this OK meaning + EV

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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SB: $49.50
BB: $30
UTG: $49.25
Hero (CO): $64.30
BTN: $15.60

Pre-Flop: 9d 7d dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75) 4c 8d Kd (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BB raises to $5, Hero raises to $62.55 and is All-In, BB calls $23.25 and is All-In


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57 11 over 85 hands


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Old 02-11-2008, 11:29 PM
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This is not the best way to play the hand imo. Things to consider include...

1. Min check raise = big hand most of the time. You have less fold equity than normal when some donk mcr you. Your hand needs fold equity to make this play work and be +ev.

2. Your getting a sick price to draw to your hand. You will also most likely get paid when it hit because a.this guy sucks b. he most likely has a big hand.
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Old 02-12-2008, 12:49 AM
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So I should call min raise then when turn pairs what size bet would you call on turn if any?
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Old 02-12-2008, 01:36 AM
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I would call a standard sized bet on a paired turn. You need to look at what your implied odds are and make your decision based on that.

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Old 02-12-2008, 11:18 AM
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i would just call his minraise, you are getting like 4000000 to 1. ( exaggeration ) calling here is the most +ev play im fairly confident
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Old 02-12-2008, 04:39 PM
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Just call.

Aside from getting great odds, you likely don't have a ton of FE with the shove (although some). I'm confident that a shove is +EV but that a call is more +EV, given pot odds and having position.

Also consider what you represent, most people aren't shoving strong hands over a check raise here (they would generally call so villain can continue bluffing and to disguise). This is basically the thesis of the Yeti Theorem on 2p2 if you are familiar with that.

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Old 02-12-2008, 07:46 PM
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It is good to play your draws fast only because of the FE you will get on later streets. IMO you don't have very good FE against a flop c/minraise, therefore, flatting would be best.
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