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Old 07-10-2009, 02:43 PM
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floped the stone cold nutts here, and kinda slow played it, but I obv wanted to keep both players in the pot. Did I slow play my hand to much here? Any other comments on how I played the hand?

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Hero (Button) ($11.45)
SB ($6.59)
BB ($31.43)
UTG ($18.73)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10, A
UTG bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.20) Q, K, J (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.10, UTG raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, 1 fold, BB raises to $2.40, UTG calls $2.10, Hero calls $2.10

Turn: ($8.40) J (3 players)
BB bets $8.40, UTG raises to $16.03 (All-In), Hero calls $8.75 (All-In), BB calls $7.63

River: ($49.21) 9 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $49.21 | Rake: $2
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Old 07-10-2009, 04:31 PM
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It's superobvious that they have something strong on the flop so make sure to get it in there one way or the other since a lot of cards will kill your action. I guess the first call MIGHT be ok but when it gets back too you after 15 bets or whatever you gotta put in a big raise to rep the NFD or something.
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Old 07-10-2009, 04:53 PM
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Just get it in on the flop. You have the nuts and get action. Gogogo imo
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Old 07-10-2009, 06:35 PM
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pretty much what everyone else said, slowplaying is great, but multi way w/ this much interest in the pot a shove is best cause villains aren't folding based on action thus far and other cards may prevent betting on l8r streets.
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:54 PM
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never ever ever slowplay on THAT board...especially when you have the privilege to be last to act. You don't want to give anyone an easy 6-outer...we have a 3-way which makes it more likely.
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:28 PM
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I dont mind the flat from the utg hoping to get over called, but once raised, he is showing super strength, so just get it in.
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Old 07-11-2009, 07:45 AM
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Here is the Key..

1st- all these posts are decent but not percise...

2. everything from you preflop call to the cold call postflop are standard. (if I had a naked AT I would prob raise but fact you nut flush draw means flatting is wayy better here..)

3. On the flop after it is 3bet and comes around to you the pot size is nearly the same size as your stack! The shallower your stacks the less you need to slowplay! Also, if you slow play one action with the nuts what that is doing is buying you a wider percieved range on a later action in the hand. This is a common mistake --you should not slowplay multiple actions or streets, the value of slowplaying one action is the value you get from having a wider percieved range later in the hand..

4. So we gotta back raise 4bet the flop!.. The key to the betsizing is that you don't give him proper odds ( immediate and implied) to profitablly call and stack you with a boat on the river. Given that you are 100bbs deep just jaming should be fine. If you were 200 deep bet sizing would be much more interstining..
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Old 07-11-2009, 01:40 PM
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That's correct. The first flat is ok, but get it in after the BB 3bets the flop imo.
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