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Old 02-02-2010, 09:01 AM
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Default NL 25: to thin

Villain is 18/14/1.5 so no reads because he never plays any hands... Is my 3 bet to thin is this a 3 bet or fold spot????
Can i ever flat? and just try to out play him post?

What do you think of river spots, it appears marginal, but I feel like there is a lot worse he could call w/ random Kxs (are these even in his range?) A10, random qs he decides to hero call with. etc.



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Hero (BTN): $25
SB: $38.58
BB: $24.97
UTG: $28.51
MP: $38.43
CO: $29.94

Pre-Flop: 9 7 dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, CO raises to $0.90, Hero raises to $2.50, 2 folds, CO calls $1.60

Flop: ($5.35) K K Q (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero bets $3, CO calls $3

Turn: ($11.35) 5 (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($11.35) J (2 Players)
CO bets $8.50, Hero raises to $19.50 and is All-In, CO calls $11
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:14 AM
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Default Re: NL 25: to thin

Super super cool until the river.

Will he call with Kx? River shove may or may not be ok depending on your image imo.

If you are playing crazy 45/40 af 9 then jam.

If you have been mostly in line I'd just call river because he won't call with a bare King.
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:15 AM
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Default Re: NL 25: to thin

If the villain is tight and not opening many pots then he's probably not folding when he does open. Therefore I can understand a flat here. You have position and a non-dominated hand, if the board came 7K7 you could probably get paid from his AK or something. Folding pre is fine also and a 3bet is OK sometimes too.

As played I think it's OK....
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:18 AM
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Default Re: NL 25: to thin

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Super super cool until the river.

Will he call with Kx? River shove may or may not be ok depending on your image imo.

If you are playing crazy 45/40 af 9 then jam.

If you have been mostly in line I'd just call river because he won't call with a bare King.
I think he will. We didn't take a standard suited connectors check/call check/call line so he probably doesn't put us on a flush and we could have easily been pot controlling a Q on the turn. And most microstakes players probably can't lay down a K here...

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Old 02-02-2010, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: NL 25: to thin

This 3 bet depends a littl on game flow / your image.

In general I would 3 bet AXs or KXs vs someone who folds to a lot of 3 bets since I have blockers and that will increase his folding. I can also suck out vs some of his flatting range better... if he has a flatting range. I guess though I can rep all A hi flops when I have 97s so does that even matter? idk.

But if the time is right and I have 97s then I will 3 bet this all day long.
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Old 02-02-2010, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: NL 25: to thin

3b is fine
Postflop is cool, I'd call river as a default, raising is a bit too thin for me considering all his Kx hands have boats and the only flushes he has are better than you and there are generally the only hands that lead this river.
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:09 PM
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Default Re: NL 25: to thin

I play it the same.
3bet some, fold some pre.
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: NL 25: to thin

Seems fine to me, I know some ppl say flatting is good pre if your comfortable playing the hand here, I personally prefer 3betting or folding but thats just me.
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Old 02-02-2010, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: NL 25: to thin

i dont like 3betting 9 high!
but in this spot i like it vs opponent who folds 2 many 3bets and i dont like flatting pre.
wat probs sed about 3bet bluffing KX and AX is realy good stuff.
as played i do the same!
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Old 02-02-2010, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: NL 25: to thin

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Super super cool until the river.

Will he call with Kx? River shove may or may not be ok depending on your image imo.

If you are playing crazy 45/40 af 9 then jam.

If you have been mostly in line I'd just call river because he won't call with a bare King.

I dont really know, Do we think its best to shove giving him the decision, knowing we can get called by better, and sometimes worst?

I think it kinda dumb to assume they have a full house evertime the board pairs, but w/ his line looking so strong, by leading the river on this board, Im not exactly sure a shove is all profitable?
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