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Old 04-27-2009, 02:53 PM
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Do you have many ideas on BB play in Heads up as in what would be good vpip vs 90-100% sb raiser, I'm currently running at like 30% vpip from bb which i feel is way 2 low, I know its opponent specific based on their posflop play > ie which hands are going 2 get most value from post flop and which hands are going 2 b negative ev to play against our opponent > if we only consider hands in vacuum as in post flop playability which hands are we going 2 want 2 play from bb Expanding from a basic value range as in how low king queen j are u gonna want 2 play and what is the minimum reqs for non face card combos also playing all aces?
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Old 04-27-2009, 03:29 PM
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Do you have many ideas on BB play in Heads up as in what would be good vpip vs 90-100% sb raiser, I'm currently running at like 30% vpip from bb which i feel is way 2 low, I know its opponent specific based on their posflop play > ie which hands are going 2 get most value from post flop and which hands are going 2 b negative ev to play against our opponent > if we only consider hands in vacuum as in post flop playability which hands are we going 2 want 2 play from bb Expanding from a basic value range as in how low king queen j are u gonna want 2 play and what is the minimum reqs for non face card combos also playing all aces?
I haven't played a lot of heads-up so I'm not sure what a reasonable vpip from the bb is and I wouldn't feel too comfortable giving you advice on what hands to play either. You could try posting this in the heads-up forum as they'd probably be able to give you better advice.
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:29 PM
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Old 04-29-2009, 08:05 PM
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will you analyze stats from a full ring player?
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Old 04-30-2009, 01:53 AM
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Here you go Leggo junkies,
Constructive criticism only please. LOL this is my life you will be trashing. Hope you guys can find some leaks. Im sure it wont be like a wheres waldo book, but probably more like one of those pop out kids books, there probably poking me in the freaking eye and I can't even see them. Anyways anxious to here what y'all have to say.




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Old 04-30-2009, 06:32 AM
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will you analyze stats from a full ring player?
Hey IcarusJam, it's like the heads-up thing, I'm not really sure what reasonable frequencies are for various FR stats. Post them up anyway and I can see if there's anything glaring. Hopefully somebody else has knowledge of FR stats and can help out.

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Here you go Leggo junkies,
Constructive criticism only please. LOL this is my life you will be trashing. Hope you guys can find some leaks. Im sure it wont be like a wheres waldo book, but probably more like one of those pop out kids books, there probably poking me in the freaking eye and I can't even see them. Anyways anxious to here what y'all have to say.




Hey Maximus, these look pretty good.

I noticed a gap between your UTG VPIP and PFR, this tells me you're open limping hands which is a leak. You want to be raising or folding when you enter a pot. It's too difficult to have a balanced open limping range and it's unnecessary to have one.

You're also playing around the same number of hands from UTG and MP, even though the positions are similar they should still be played differently and you should be looking to play more hands from MP then you do from UTG. Your VPIP UTG is on the high side, it's not extremely high but it's definitely on the looser side, maybe when you get rid of the open limping range it'll come down a bit. Most players won't punish you for having a wide UTG opening range so it's not really a problem but if you're not comfortable playing postflop OOP it can be a problem. The main reason to have a wide UTG opening range is to generate action for your big hands (big PPs, sets, etc.) but most players will pay you off too light regardless so it's not really a problem if you don't want to open SCs or suited aces.

You could open slightly more hands from MP as well if you wanted to but it's not a huge deal tbh.

Your steal % is just on the margin of what I'd call acceptable, you could bring this up as well if you wanted to but again, it's not a huge problem.

Your 3bet%s are looking very solid, you're 3betting more from the BTN then you are from the blinds which is extremely important.

However, your vs. 3bet fold% is on the low side, a lot of the time it's not going to be profitable to call 3bets light at these stakes, most players aren't 3betting you light so it's unnecessary to have a wide calling or 4betting range against 3bets. The main reason for calling 3bets light is to make your opponents less inclined to 3bet you light in future, in fact the looser calls will frequently be slightly -EV but the benefits of having players play back at your opens less will make up for that. However, at these stakes it's not necessary since most players aren't 3betting you light enough to warrant it.

So overall you've got a pretty solid preflop game, just a couple of things to look out for.

Postflop your flop cbet% is on the low side. At micro stakes the majority of your opponents are playing fit or fold and aren't c/ring you as a bluff very frequently at all, so you can get away with having a very wide cbet% a lot of the time. Most of your opponents won't be capable of exploiting you for it, so look for more spots to bluff. It's also fine to bet fold things like bottom pairs or ace highs at these stakes, ordinarily we'd check these back to balance our cbetting range and prevent ourselves being c/r bluffed. But, like I said, this isn't as much of a concern at these stakes so we can feel comfortable bet folding these hands unless we have a read that our opponent will c/r bluff us.

Your turn cbet% is also on the low side for your flop cbet% (they're linked obv.). This means you're not double barrelling much, at micro stakes that's not really a problem or a leak. Even though your opponents play fit or fold, they'll also call down too light when they have a piece, so double barrelling isn't as profitable. However, when you move up, this will definitely be something you'll need to improve on.

Your c/r flop% is very solid, it's important to be playing back at people OOP when you don't have initiative, just make sure you pay attention to randomization by equity and don't just c/r bluff when you have no equity. If you're c/ring as the PFR it's likely to be a leak a lot of the time, there's very little need to have a flop c/ring range as the PFR, there's extremely few times when the best line with a particular hand will be to c/r the flop as the PFR. By cbetting a wide range you keep your range wide and difficult to read, villains won't know if you're cbetting with made hands or air so it's more deceptive then taking c/ring lines as the PFR. I'm not sure if you do that or not, I'm just mentioning it in case you are.

You didn't include a W$WSF% which is an extremely important %. It looks like your Agg% are on the low side though, these will come up a bit when you start cbetting more. Your Agg%s are also low from the blinds which tells me you're not picking up limped pots enough. I mentioned this in my first video but limped pots are extremely important. Most players don't fight for limped pots enough. They don't view the 3 or 4 big blinds as important. And ranges are generally going to be wider and weaker so we should be able to steal the pot a lot.

They can add significantly to your winrate. Picking up an extra 1 or 2 limped pots every 100 hands should have a positive effect on your bb/100. Maybe if you're 8 – 12 tabling having to think about picking up limped pots will decrease your concentration for bigger pots on other tables, so it might not be worth it. But if you're playing anywhere around 4 tables then you should be picking up these pots whenever you can.

The best spots are when the board is dry. Dry boards are less likely to hit your opponents, so it's less likely anybody has anything.

It's also good when we have decent equity or backdoor equity. When we have a pair we're usually just going to bet to take the pot down. Sometimes we'll get value (like with top or strong middle pairs), other times it's going to be effectively a 5 out semi bluff (with bottom and weak middle pairs). In some spots check calling will be o.k. as well.

It's pretty hard to define what exactly the bet is trying to accomplish. There's going to be times where the best play is to bet but we're not really sure if it's for value or as a bluff. It's not necessarily a "two way bet", it's just the easiest or most profitable way to play the hand.

It's also good to bet out when we have draws or backdoor draws. Overcards can add a bit more equity to a bluff. If we spike an overcard we can follow up on the turn for value or check to induce bluffs or whatever.

And you can follow up on good turn (and river) cards. I don't want you to start going wild and barrelling off your whole stack in a 3bb pot but if you feel that your opponent's weak or it's a card which improved your equity or if it's a scare card and you feel a bet should show profit then make the bet. It doesn't matter that it was a small pot if you think the bet's going to be +EV.

So, overall, your postflop game looks o.k. but you should try to be a little more aggressive in spots.
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:37 AM
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I have noticed alot of these things you discuss in here, and some of them I haven't thought, about and will google and research some of your points made. They are very much appriecated. I noticed that in my sesssions towards the end I become a lot more passive. I am focusing on trying to maintian, my aggression through out the session,
Here Is a comparison of positionial stats from the last seven days to overall. I was wondering if you could look at that and see if there are any leaks I am not self adjusting, I do see I can open up my mp range and still maybe tighten my utg. Aside from that i find alot of the stats some what confusing, I am still a novice in online play and sometimes find the stats to be somewhat confusing, so I think i suck at self assesment. And am trying to focus on improving my ability to self adjust leaks. And how to exploit other players, based on stats.
Lastley do you think my game, based soley on my stats, is solid enough to play at .5/1 .
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:58 AM
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You're still open limping which you need to cut out. UTG is fine, MP could be a little higher, you're stealing less which isn't good.

Agg% is still low from all positions and needs to increase. Your 3bet %s are actually looking even better since you've upped it from the BTN and reduced it slightly from the blinds.

Yes, you need to make a few changes but you shouldn't have much trouble competing at 100nl. Get some more hands in at 50nl first and see how you do.
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:07 AM
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A few more questions?
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However, your vs. 3bet fold% is on the low side, a lot of the time it's not going to be profitable to call 3bets light at these stakes, most players aren't 3betting you light so it's unnecessary to have a wide calling or 4betting range against 3bets. The main reason for calling 3bets light is to make your opponents less inclined to 3bet you light in future, in fact the looser calls will frequently be slightly -EV but the benefits of having players play back at your opens less will make up for that. However, at these stakes it's not necessary since most players aren't 3betting you light enough to warrant it.
What would be solid three bet calling range, just catagory 1 hands?


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Your steal % is just on the margin of what I'd call acceptable, you could bring this up as well if you wanted to but again, it's not a huge problem.
What would be more acceptable steal %?
Also How is your steal% calculated, every time you bluff at a pot or is it more about stealing blinds?


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You didn't include a W$WSF% which is an extremely important %.
Its hovering around 45, what is my goal here?


Finally You touched on many different points, and things I could improve on, however I am just a common man, If there was just one thing I could focus on, what would it be. Im thinking it would be just to be more aggressive, on the flop. Let me know what you think.


Cool, thanks man again. I can't thank you enough. Hope your finals go well, my wife is going crazy, she is in medical school. So yeah, defiantly being a B, right now. allright gl thanks again,
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:10 AM
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Geez your fast, Red.
So yeah, pretty much everything you said. Ha ha ha Im a donk.
Its the german in me im hard of hearing.
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