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[luvr]

Ah I get it. Thanks for your insight. I was thinking about what you said though and I just played a quick session, I think this looks a bit better?

[RedJoker]

Originally Posted by luvr

Ah I get it. Thanks for your insight. I was thinking about what you said though and I just played a quick session, I think this looks a bit better?

The sample size is obviously incredibly small and meaningless but, if you want to compare it to a bigger sample later, a 10% UTG opening range would be on the very tight side, you could probably loosen up even more from LP and your blinds play is a lot looser than it was in the first screenshot.

Those 3betting frequencies are much better than the ones in the first screenshot as well.

[stockton]

This sample is since matt took a giant shit on my face. please berate my bb play.

[RedJoker]

Originally Posted by stockton

This sample is since matt took a giant shit on my face. please berate my bb play.

Hey Stockton, sounds kinky, you must be that prostitute Matt was telling me about.

Your BTN play looks very solid, stealing a large amount from there. I think you could probably steal more from the CO and SB though. Your blind play is on the tight side but that's not really a terrible strategy if you're not comfortable playing looser OOP. A lot of the time the best way to get comfortable is to put yourself in those situations though so if you're looking to improve that area then try stealing more from the SB and calling more from the blinds against steals. Broadways, mid-high SCs, suited aces and PPs can all be defended if villain is a frequent stealer. Of course, it's extremely important that you play back a lot postflop if you adopt this strategy. The stronger parts of that range will almost always be a defend though.

Your 3betting frequencies look very good, much higher otb then everywhere else. You could even try to push that higher still if you wanted to though.

Your postflop aggression levels look very solid and you've got a high W$WSF. It looks like you play reasonably aggressive in limped pots as well so keep that up and try to find more spots to bet out and pick up the dead money.

[stockton]

Originally Posted by RedJoker

Hey Stockton, sounds kinky, you must be that prostitute Matt was telling me about.

Your BTN play looks very solid, stealing a large amount from there. I think you could probably steal more from the CO and SB though. Your blind play is on the tight side but that's not really a terrible strategy if you're not comfortable playing looser OOP. A lot of the time the best way to get comfortable is to put yourself in those situations though so if you're looking to improve that area then try stealing more from the SB and calling more from the blinds against steals. Broadways, mid-high SCs, suited aces and PPs can all be defended if villain is a frequent stealer. Of course, it's extremely important that you play back a lot postflop if you adopt this strategy. The stronger parts of that range will almost always be a defend though.

Your 3betting frequencies look very good, much higher otb then everywhere else. You could even try to push that higher still if you wanted to though.

Your postflop aggression levels look very solid and you've got a high W$WSF. It looks like you play reasonably aggressive in limped pots as well so keep that up and try to find more spots to bet out and pick up the dead money.

yea, i've recently opened up my button 3betting range (this month it is at about 11%) but my CO stealing range is still only 27 and sb steal at 40.

it is a small sample though. 8500 hands or so.

[oldschooldonk]

pretty embarrassed to post these #s but thats why im here. wish i had enough hands from just the last month, which is when i actually started trying for real for real.
have a laugh..

[RedJoker]

Originally Posted by oldschooldonk

pretty embarrassed to post these #s but thats why im here. wish i had enough hands from just the last month, which is when i actually started trying for real for real.
have a laugh..

Hey oldschooldonk,

You seem to be a little positionally aware but nowhere near where you need to be. Your VPIP/PFR from LP should be far, far higher than your VPIP/PFR from EP. Start adding more hands to your CO opening range and a shit load more hands to your BTN opening range. I posted a link to a starting hand chart in post 78 of this thread. Print out a copy and follow it until you have it ingrained.

Your 3betting frequency is higher from the blinds than it is from late position, this is the wrong way around, you want to be 3betting a lot more from late position.

Your aggression frequency is very low from the blinds which tells me you're playing passively in limped pots, look for more spots to pick up this dead money.

Your WtSD looks to be on the high side. This is likely caused by either calling down too much or not being aggressive enough. Cbet and W$WSF stats would be useful here but have a think about what might be causing this.

[oldschooldonk]

thanks red...ill have a look at that post and get back to you about it.

Your 3betting frequency is higher from the blinds than it is from late position, this is the wrong way around, you want to be 3betting a lot more from late position.

I guess maybe i was trying to win pots right there, without having to play oop? tightening my 3bet range in the blinds and widening in LP is my simple answer here i guess, correct? Ill have to look and see what kinds of hands i was doing this with. thats interesting.

Your aggression frequency is very low from the blinds which tells me you're playing passively in limped pots, look for more spots to pick up this dead money.

Im unclear here, does this mean i should be taking more swings at pots on the flop OOP when people have limped say when i hit any pair on the flop and i checked in the bb, or should i be looking for spots to raise there pf to try to pick them up? i understand i cant make any hard&fast rules for my play, i just mean in general.

Your WtSD looks to be on the high side. This is likely caused by either calling down too much or not being aggressive enough. Cbet and W$WSF stats would be useful here but have a think about what might be causing this.

I have a pretty good idea. I'd bet that when i take a look at the histories, it'll show that when i wasnt sure what to do with a hand that i go into showdown mode, just because i have no idea how to successfully read hands. I know I have a big problem with releasing control of a hand because im not sure what to do, but know i want to showdown. Im going to take a look at that.

do you know of any good reading with regards to hand reading and the correct thought process you should use when playing a hand?

thanks for your time. i'm sure this is some pretty elementary stuff for you.



here's some of those other stats...still learning HEM

[RedJoker]

Originally Posted by oldschooldonk

I guess maybe i was trying to win pots right there, without having to play oop? tightening my 3bet range in the blinds and widening in LP is my simple answer here i guess, correct? Ill have to look and see what kinds of hands i was doing this with. thats interesting.

If players are going to fold to your 3bets from the blinds a lot then it's fine. However, you should expect them to call lighter when they have position and, even if they did call the same amount, you'd much prefer to have position when they do call.

Originally Posted by oldschooldonk

Im unclear here, does this mean i should be taking more swings at pots on the flop OOP when people have limped say when i hit any pair on the flop and i checked in the bb, or should i be looking for spots to raise there pf to try to pick them up? i understand i cant make any hard&fast rules for my play, i just mean in general.

I was talking about postflop. When you have a pair, a draw, even a backdoor draw or if the board's dry you should be considering trying to pick up the pot. Raising preflop from the BB against a limper in the field isn't something I do hugely often. When there's a player with position on us I don't want to bloat the pot OOP with a marginal hand. I expect to be called extremely frequently so I want a hand that's clearly ahead of their range because I'm going to be at a large disadvantage postflop. I'll be OOP against a player with a range that's very hard to define and who's likely to peel me light and put me in awkward turn and river spots.

So, although, for example, A5o might be ahead of the range they'll call preflop, it's hard to define it as being for value. I'd be merging my range if I included that hand, and merging your range on earlier streets, especially OOP, isn't a good idea because there are future streets left to play where you're going to be less and less confident value betting your hand postflop. You'll frequently be put in a spot where you have initiative with a hand that's not clearly a value hand and not clearly a bluff. So you'll often end up having to check call or check fold and it makes very little sense to take the initiative just to be forced into giving it up on a later street when you make your most likely made hand (a pair).

The range I would raise would probably include a lot of broadway and mid - high PP type hands because I expect the limper to be a fishier player who'll call with a lot of dominated hands. In those spots, if I make top pair I can treat it as the nuts and value bet multiple streets.

Originally Posted by oldschooldonk

I have a pretty good idea. I'd bet that when i take a look at the histories, it'll show that when i wasnt sure what to do with a hand that i go into showdown mode, just because i have no idea how to successfully read hands. I know I have a big problem with releasing control of a hand because im not sure what to do, but know i want to showdown. Im going to take a look at that.

do you know of any good reading with regards to hand reading and the correct thought process you should use when playing a hand?

thanks for your time. i'm sure this is some pretty elementary stuff for you.



here's some of those other stats...still learning HEM

Your cbet stats and W$WSF look very solid so, as you said, the large WtSD is most likely caused by calling down too light.

In the sticky at the top of this forum there are links to several 2+2 stickies which should have plenty of content on hand reading. As a general rule, until you have a good reason to think otherwise, a raise postflop is almost always a monster at micro stakes and calling down lightly will usually be a huge mistake. By taking notes and paying attention to player tendencies and the hands they show down you'll be able to work out the exceptions to this rule.

[northstander]

Great thread, it would be awesome if you could look at my stats,(all at 1/2) thanks for this opportunity!!