**Official μNL stats thread**

[nigelreopoker]

Hi RJ,

Firstly, fair play on becoming a Leggo pro.
Your analysis of my stats when I first joined was very useful for me. Here are my stats for the month so far 6 tabling 50nl. Not running very good but there are probably a lot of other glaring leaks. Any input is much appreciated.

Cheers,

Steve

[RedJoker]

Originally Posted by Travisp33

Red - 1st off your 3b video was awesome. Thanks so much for that.

So I was going along doing just fine @ 50nl and then the wheels fell off. I included my last 15k hands here, and a graph of my last 30k to show that at least @ some point I didnt suck @ interwebs poker. I will try to go compare the winning stats with what I am running @ now, but I really dont feel that I changed anything. Your help MUCH appreciated!!

I really hadn't looked at the positional stats, but maybe I should always check auto fold from the BB and quit worrying? lol

Thanks Travis,

You've got a gap between your VPIP and PFR UTG which tells me you're open limping. You need to be either raising or folding whenever you're the first to enter a pot. There are times when overlimping is o.k. but not open limping.

You didn't put in a steal % but I think you could loosen up a little otb.

Your 3bet% is about the same from all positions, it should be much higher otb.

You're also calling 3bets reasonably wide. People aren't going to be 3betting you very light at this level so there's little need to defend speculative hands.

Your cbet% is on the low side. At micro stakes the majority of your opponents are playing fit or fold and aren't c/ring you as a bluff very frequently at all, so you can get away with having a very wide cbet% a lot of the time. Most of your opponents won't be capable of exploiting you for it, so look for more spots to bluff. It's also fine to bet fold things like bottom pairs or ace highs at these stakes, ordinarily we'd check these back to balance our cbetting range and prevent ourselves being c/r bluffed. But, like I said, this isn't as much of a concern at these stakes so we can feel comfortable bet folding these hands unless we have a read that our opponent will c/r bluff us.

Your c/r flop% is very low. I wrote about Randomization by Equity in post 5 of this thread.

Your WtSD is on the high side. Part of this might be caused by not cbetting that much but, given your low Agg%, it's likely you're calling down far too light as well.

Your Agg% is very low from the blinds which tells me you're not picking up limped pots enough, I talked about limped pots in post 16 in this thread.

Originally Posted by nigelreopoker

Hi RJ,

Firstly, fair play on becoming a Leggo pro.
Your analysis of my stats when I first joined was very useful for me. Here are my stats for the month so far 6 tabling 50nl. Not running very good but there are probably a lot of other glaring leaks. Any input is much appreciated.

Cheers,

Steve

Thanks Steve,

I see that your W$WSF has gone up significantly and you've closed the gap between your VPIP and PFR which is great. I'd have liked to see your PFR go up to your VPIP rather then your VPIP going down to your PFR but it's not a big deal.

I'd try to cut back the number of tables you're playing. There's very little point playing 6 tables until you're winning consistently and, even then, the extra immediate hourly you'll have multitabling at microstakes is going to be destroyed by the lost future profit of playing fewer tables, getting better faster, moving up and making more money at small and midstakes.

You're playing a very tight strategy which is fine, you could probably open up a little more from late position though, particularly the CO.

Your 3bet% is extremely low, it doesn't look like you've got a 3bet bluffing range at all. I mentioned the last time that it wasn't something you needed to worry about at the moment but now that you've got a solid preflop strategy I think the next step should be to open up your 3betting range. You need to start mixing in some air hands, start with low SCs. Any time a regular opens and you've got 54s, 65s, 76s or 87s 3bet him, you'll be amazed how often this will work and, as you get more confident with it, you can start using more and more hands to bluff with when you find good situations, typically when you're otb.

Your c/r flop% is very low. I wrote about Randomization by Equity in post 5 of this thread.

Your Agg% and W$WSF is very low from the blinds which tells me you're not picking up limped pots enough, I talked about limped pots in post 16 in this thread.

[Travisp33]

Thanks Red - Only question - I am usually not excited about check-raising the flop for value, because I hate blowing people off of hands that I could have gotten multiple streets from, especially if I flop a set or something. Now against a nitty raiser on an AK5 flop where I flop a set of 5s, Im all for it, but otherwise, I just don't do it much. Obviously this leaves me check-raising as a bluff or semi most of the time which is a pretty huge hole in my game.

Can you suggest some spots where I should be looking to check-raise for value, other than the super-obvious spots?

Thanks!

[RedJoker]

Originally Posted by Travisp33

Thanks Red - Only question - I am usually not excited about check-raising the flop for value, because I hate blowing people off of hands that I could have gotten multiple streets from, especially if I flop a set or something. Now against a nitty raiser on an AK5 flop where I flop a set of 5s, Im all for it, but otherwise, I just don't do it much. Obviously this leaves me check-raising as a bluff or semi most of the time which is a pretty huge hole in my game.

Can you suggest some spots where I should be looking to check-raise for value, other than the super-obvious spots?

Thanks!

Well I don't expect most micro players to fire multiple barrels for value too often and as a bluff even less. Anything they would have fired three barrels for value with they're going to call a c/r with, if you have a very aggressive image they'll likely call with worse made hands which would have pot controlled and on draw heavy boards they'll almost definitely call with draws which would frequently take free cards on later streets. So I think c/ring as a default is far better then slowplaying.

Against extremely aggro maniacs then you can feel happy check calling down but they'll probably continue light against a c/r anyway so you can do whatever you like.

Sometimes you'll blow them off their weak hand, but you weren't getting much value from them regardless, and other times scare cards will come down and cost you action against hands which would have stacked off on the flop or make you a second best hand when they hit a bigger hand.

If you don't want to c/r I'd probably donk bet instead, the best spots for this are the very connected boards, like 875tt which aren't likely to get cbet light anyway. The other good spots are against players who don't like to cbet light. Otherwise a c/r will trap more dead money so I prefer that route.

I just don't think trapping OOP is great, you're at a huge disadvantage OOP, they can take free cards and control the pot. If you wanted to trap IP then it's a bit better but I'd still raise pretty frequently for the reasons mentioned above.

[Travisp33]

Awesome - Thx - yea, I don't think I am very 'trappy', but I do donk alot for value right now rather than C/r. Ill give it a go.

Thanks for your help - this is a pretty awesome thread!

[nigelreopoker]

Originally Posted by RedJoker

Thanks Steve,

I see that your W$WSF has gone up significantly and you've closed the gap between your VPIP and PFR which is great. I'd have liked to see your PFR go up to your VPIP rather then your VPIP going down to your PFR but it's not a big deal.

I'd try to cut back the number of tables you're playing. There's very little point playing 6 tables until you're winning consistently and, even then, the extra immediate hourly you'll have multitabling at microstakes is going to be destroyed by the lost future profit of playing fewer tables, getting better faster, moving up and making more money at small and midstakes.

You're playing a very tight strategy which is fine, you could probably open up a little more from late position though, particularly the CO.

Your 3bet% is extremely low, it doesn't look like you've got a 3bet bluffing range at all. I mentioned the last time that it wasn't something you needed to worry about at the moment but now that you've got a solid preflop strategy I think the next step should be to open up your 3betting range. You need to start mixing in some air hands, start with low SCs. Any time a regular opens and you've got 54s, 65s, 76s or 87s 3bet him, you'll be amazed how often this will work and, as you get more confident with it, you can start using more and more hands to bluff with when you find good situations, typically when you're otb.

Your c/r flop% is very low. I wrote about Randomization by Equity in post 5 of this thread.

Your Agg% and W$WSF is very low from the blinds which tells me you're not picking up limped pots enough, I talked about limped pots in post 16 in this thread.

Good stuff as always RJ.

I'm 6 tabling because i have a sweet 60% rb deal and can make a decent wage on rb alone. You're probably right about it stunting my poker growth though. I have been beating 50nl on Entraction over a fairly large sample(120k hands) until this downswing of all downswings I'm on at the moment. I have the bankroll to support me so i haven't started worrying yet.

My style is definitely tighter when playing 6 to playing 4. I will try start loosening up in late position.
Should i be opening ATC on the button? I open all pairs, suited connectors, suited aces and broadways already. Stuff like k7, j4, 106 i just dump. Is that a leak?

3betting is probably the area i struggle with most. I have a 3bet bluff range, i just don't do it everytime. I'm going to rewatch your 3b Vid now again. Maybe my 3b value range is too tight? What hands should it include? I usually flat with pairs 22-1010, and 3b jj+, depending on situation of course. What other hands apart from aq, ak should I be 3betting for value.

I have read your points on Randomization by Equity, and Aggression from the blinds in limped pots and have already started applying it to my game.

Thanks again,

Stephen

[RedJoker]

Yeah, that's a pretty nice rakeback deal.

You don't need to open ATC otb. When there are tight players in the blinds it's certainly profitable to open anything but against competent regs it's not a great idea as they'll play back at you a decent amount. Your button range is on the tight side, I open that range from MP! But folding the hands you listed isn't a leak, I'd probably open the suited ones somewhat frequently though.

You could loosen up a little otb if you wanted to, however I think you should loosen up more from the CO first.

The value range is going to depend on the position, like against a CO or BTN open it's probably o.k. to get in TT or AQs but against an UTG open you likely shouldn't be getting in JJ or AK too frequently. Also, if you want to be getting hands like AQs in preflop you need to have a much wider 3bet bluffing range. Nobody competent is going to be 4betting bluffing you enough or getting it in with worse to justify getting AQs in pre at the moment.

[ALF36]

Hi I was wondering if you could take a look at my stats. Half of the hands were played at 50NL and the other half at 25NL. My guess is I am not c-betting quite enough, double barreling enough, and c/ring enough.
Thanks.
Anthony-

[RedJoker]

Originally Posted by ALF36

Hi I was wondering if you could take a look at my stats. Half of the hands were played at 50NL and the other half at 25NL. My guess is I am not c-betting quite enough, double barreling enough, and c/ring enough.
Thanks.
Anthony-

Hey Anthony,

I agree, I think you could raise your cbetting and double barrelling frequency a bit.

Your c/ring frequency is low as well but the problem is that your CCing % is also low, it looks like your range for coldcalling is mostly made up of pocket pairs. That means that your equity postflop will be very poor when you miss, usually 2 outs, so you don't have many good candidates for c/r bluffing. So there's not a huge amount you can do about the low c/ring frequency at the moment except to really look out for any spots where you have any sort of reasonable equity.

The other option is to coldcall wider. Having a low CCing % isn't a massive leak or anything, more of a style preference. And if you're not comfortable playing postflop without initiative then you're probably better off avoiding those situations, although if you want to get better at them you will eventually need to put yourself in those situations more.

Your 3betting % is also on the low side, you're doing it more on the BTN then other positions which is great, but you could probably bring this up another couple of percent pretty comfortably.

Your VPIP/PFR looks good from every position, you're stealing a good amount, not defending 3bets too light, your W$WSF looks decent so it looks like you've got a nice solid foundation.

[ALF36]

Thank you for your analysis, I appreciate it. I have a couple more questions if you don't mind. First, what is a more typical CC% and 3bet% (especially from the button).

Also for the past month or so I have been trying to win more without showdown. You can probably see on my graph about where this begins. So far, I have not had a ton of luck with my overall results. I tend to struggle a bit in 3bet pots where I don't hit (ie AK on QT7 etc.) and have a hard time knowing when to barrel and when to give up. I also believe that the majority of mistakes I make are in big pots where I either end up making a bad call or bluffing off a stack. Any general advice to improve WWSF or play in 3bet pots, certain videos to watch, things to work on?
Thanks again.
Anthony-