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Old 05-23-2009, 03:48 PM
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This tells me you're probably check raising as the preflop raiser a decent amount, there's very little reason to have a flop (or turn) check raising range as the preflop raiser. You balance your entire range much better by just cbetting both for value and as a bluff.
All of these check raises are as the PFR where I have totally missed. I'll go through my HH and see if this has been profitable or not. Pretty easy to change and the logic is sound.

I don't really defend from the sb or bb without a pair or AQ, AJ, KQ very often. I can definitely start mixing in some C/R on flops with over plus gutshot type boards. e.g. KTx rainbow with AJ.
I routinely toss AT and suited connectors from the sb and bb not sure if I should add them?

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You have a very high W$WSF and Agg%, I'm not sure if PT3 calculates Agg% differently, but you may be going overboard on the aggression. Luckily, it should be far easier for you to tone down your aggression a bit then it is for people who aren't naturally aggressive to become more aggressive.
I am not naturally agressive this is me really trying to fire it up so maybe I am taking it too far at the moment.
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Old 05-23-2009, 07:43 PM
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All of these check raises are as the PFR where I have totally missed. I'll go through my HH and see if this has been profitable or not. Pretty easy to change and the logic is sound.

I don't really defend from the sb or bb without a pair or AQ, AJ, KQ very often. I can definitely start mixing in some C/R on flops with over plus gutshot type boards. e.g. KTx rainbow with AJ.
I routinely toss AT and suited connectors from the sb and bb not sure if I should add them?
It might be profitable to c/r but so is cbetting them. And cbetting provides a far better balance since you're cbetting all of your actual hands.


Against LP opens most of the broadway hands dominate their opening range and suited broadways are a definite call from the blinds against those players. You could throw away things like KTs if you wanted to though. You can call most of the mid suited connectors and either 3bet or call the lower ones. Also, suited aces can be profitable to coldcall but it's not exactly necessary to do so.

Against EP opens you can tighten that range up a good bit and the weaker broadways will start to become dominated and more trouble hands.
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Old 05-24-2009, 11:25 AM
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Hi RedJoker,

Thanks a lot for helping us all out!

Please take a look at my stats if you want:



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Old 05-24-2009, 11:50 AM
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Hi RedJoker,

Thanks a lot for helping us all out!

Please take a look at my stats if you want:



Hey minSim,

These look extremely solid. You could probably loosen up a little bit from MP and the CO if you wanted to.

Your 3bet stats look decent, highest otb which is great. You could possibly bring it up even more from the BTN if you wanted to and probably the CO as well.

Your flop cbet% is very solid. Your turn cbet% is on the low side and, combined with your high river cbet%, tells me you don't double barrel as a bluff very frequently. This isn't necessarily a problem or even a leak at these stakes. It's just something to be aware of as you move up.

Your Agg% and W$WSF from the blinds is on the low side so you should try to pick up more limped pots in the future, read post 16 in this thread.

Your c/r% is on the low side but since you're not coldcalling very much it's probably not a huge issue at the moment. If you decide to start coldcalling wider then you'll need to be c/ring more. Have a read through post 5 on randomization by equity.
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Old 05-24-2009, 04:44 PM
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Hey minSim,

These look extremely solid. You could probably loosen up a little bit from MP and the CO if you wanted to.

Your 3bet stats look decent, highest otb which is great. You could possibly bring it up even more from the BTN if you wanted to and probably the CO as well.

Your flop cbet% is very solid. Your turn cbet% is on the low side and, combined with your high river cbet%, tells me you don't double barrel as a bluff very frequently. This isn't necessarily a problem or even a leak at these stakes. It's just something to be aware of as you move up.

Your Agg% and W$WSF from the blinds is on the low side so you should try to pick up more limped pots in the future, read post 16 in this thread.

Your c/r% is on the low side but since you're not coldcalling very much it's probably not a huge issue at the moment. If you decide to start coldcalling wider then you'll need to be c/ring more. Have a read through post 5 on randomization by equity.
Thanks RedJ. All the things you're pointing out are definately true. I read this entire thread carefully and already tried bringing your advice in practise for a session or two.

I've played this style for a while now and I think the winrate this samplesize is showing is about the max I can get without fixing things. I also tried moving up like 3 or 4 times but couldn't beat 50NL over a decent samplesize. So there's work to do for me, but I need(ed) something or someone to put me on track. I have a feeling you have done that already, so thanks a lot for that!
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Old 05-26-2009, 04:39 AM
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Hey TheDriver, welcome to LeggoPoker.

I'd be careful about playing too tired. I know for me, personally, I can't play well unless I'm refreshed and stress free. And the tiredness may be causing (or at least adding to) the tilt problems as well. I don't know if there's much you can do about that with work commitments though.

Your preflop stats look fine, although position stats would be helpful. However, you're stealing a reasonable amount so it looks like you're positionally aware. You're not coldcalling too much and your 3bet% looks fine.

However, your fold vs. 3bet% is low which tells me you may be calling 3bets too light. Most players won't be 3betting you as a bluff too frequently so there's no need to get paranoid about being played back at too much, they've most likely picked up a hand.

Postflop you're playing a much more passive game. Your Agg%s are low and both your flop and turn cbet%s are also low. You need to be finding more spots to pick up pots, most players are playing fit or fold so give them the chance to fold.

Your check raise flop% is very low, check out post 5 where I talk about randomization by equity.

I can't tell without position stats but, going on your low bet flop%, it also looks like you don't pick up limped pots enough. Read post 16 in this thread.

Here are my position stats redd, I just moved up to 25nl and my sessions are VERY SWINGY...10nl was nothing like this, I could usually just autopilate 15 tables..I think part of the swings are due to tilt and running bad in a few spots, but I am sure I am making some bad plays and leaking money in a good amount of spots......Thanks again for the advice.


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Old 05-26-2009, 07:37 AM
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Here are my position stats redd, I just moved up to 25nl and my sessions are VERY SWINGY...10nl was nothing like this, I could usually just autopilate 15 tables..I think part of the swings are due to tilt and running bad in a few spots, but I am sure I am making some bad plays and leaking money in a good amount of spots......Thanks again for the advice.

Hey TheDriver,

The position stats look solid, VPIP/PFR from each position looks good. However, you're 3betting more hands from the blinds then you are from LP. You need to start 3betting more hands when you're otb.

However, the postflop aggression is the big thing you need to work on; cbetting as a bluff, picking up limped pots, etc.

Also, you definitely need to stop playing 15 tables. You're really going to struggle to improve playing that many tables and it's probably the main reason for your low postflop aggression, you likely don't have time to notice good bluffing opportunities.

It's not surprising your sessions are so swingy when you're 15 tabling while tired and have a tendency to tilt.
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:06 PM
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Hey TheDriver,

The position stats look solid, VPIP/PFR from each position looks good. However, you're 3betting more hands from the blinds then you are from LP. You need to start 3betting more hands when you're otb.

However, the postflop aggression is the big thing you need to work on; cbetting as a bluff, picking up limped pots, etc.

Also, you definitely need to stop playing 15 tables. You're really going to struggle to improve playing that many tables and it's probably the main reason for your low postflop aggression, you likely don't have time to notice good bluffing opportunities.

It's not surprising your sessions are so swingy when you're 15 tabling while tired and have a tendency to tilt.
Thanks red. What are some agg # ranges i should be shooting for? And by pf agg you mean "agg" on HM and not "agg %" right?
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:27 PM
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Thanks red. What are some agg # ranges i should be shooting for? And by pf agg you mean "agg" on HM and not "agg %" right?
By postflop aggression I just meant in general, not a specific stat. I can't really give you a range for AF, it's way too dependent on other stats. Agg% is very similar in that it's difficult to give a range. And somebody who doesn't pick up a lot of limped pots will have a much lower Agg% then players who do, so a low Agg% could mean you have a problem in that one specific area while the rest of your game might be fine.
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:50 AM
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Hey RedJ,
I'm currently a very very marginal winner at 25NL, if you could help me with my stats so I can see where I have to improve the most at first, then it would be very kind ! Thanks a lot

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