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Old 12-13-2009, 10:58 PM
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Default playing weak facecard hands oop vs late pos opens?

how do you guys go about playing hands like QTo/JTo/KTo etc from the blinds vs co/btn opens?

I usually want to play them vs anyone opening a wide range. DO you like to 3bet or just call?

I don't mind calling them in the sb at micros on stars because players sqz a very low percentage. Also donking and c/r the flop works well because alot of players give up post flop way to much.

3betting obv works really well at micros so i tend to take it down pre alot of the time, but i seem to get in a world of pain when i get called.

e.g this hand

PokerStars Game #36631167459: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2009/12/13 14:30:23 WET [2009/12/13 9:30:23 ET]
Table 'Benetnash VIII' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: misok1 ($38.55 in chips)
Seat 2: vadelval ($62.85 in chips)
Seat 3: hero ($26.80 in chips)
Seat 4: Andre10ru ($25 in chips)
Seat 5: hiroll ($11.45 in chips)
hero: posts small blind $0.10
Andre10ru: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [Tc Qs]
hiroll: folds
misok1: folds
vadelval: raises $0.50 to $0.75
hero: raises $2.25 to $3
Andre10ru: folds
vadelval: calls $2.25
*** FLOP *** [Jh 8s Th]
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: playing weak facecard hands oop vs late pos op

Fold pre. We would never play these hands from utg, so why would we play them from the blinds. The whole point of opening a wide range in late position, is because bad players will flat with hands like A9s or K10o, and be check folding a ton. Playing these hands from the blinds is something only an advance player at advance levels should be thinking about doing.

Stick to about the top 12% of your hands.... AJo+ KQ+ 77+ if you think the button is open to wide and aggro.. Start 3 betting your entire range from the blinds and this should tighten him up.
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Old 12-14-2009, 07:09 PM
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Default Re: playing weak facecard hands oop vs late pos op

I generally just fold them in the blinds unless it's multi-way sometimes I'll 3bet or flat depending on opponents. I think I'd rather 3bet w/ total bluffs rather than hands like this though. But from CO or Btn I typically open these unless btn is very loose when I'm in CO.... btn I think I open these vs almost anyone.
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Old 12-14-2009, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: playing weak facecard hands oop vs late pos op

fold or 3bet u don't really want 2 be putting money in oop with these hands, ppl also do not steal enough at micros for there to be enough dominated hands in their range to play these hands so u cant really get value if u cold call
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Old 12-15-2009, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: playing weak facecard hands oop vs late pos op

I just fold these hands preflop from the blinds and my life is a lot easier. 3betting isn't horrible if you have some concrete reads, but calling is probably the worse thing you can do.
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