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Old 09-01-2010, 10:03 PM
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I had been calling this players 3 bets a ton from the btn based on some reads that he 3 bets light from the blinds and i had been winning alot in this posi on my other tables against this reg. Thoughts on turn decision? Also how do i post my hand i did this all from scratch?



Seat 1: UTG ($50)
Seat 2: utg +1 ($56.75)
Seat 3: CO ($50)
Seat 4: hero BTN ($62.40)
Seat 5: sb ($44.25)
Seat 6: bb ($73.70)
posts the small blind of $0.25
posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [Qh Th]
UTG folds
UTG+1 folds
co folds
HERO raises to $1
sb folds
bb raises to $4
hero calls $3
*** FLOP *** [Ts 8s 3h]
bb has 15 seconds left to act
bb bets $6
hero calls $6
*** TURN *** [Ts 8s 3h] [5c]
bb has 15 seconds left to act
bb bets $63.70, and is all in
hero has 15 seconds left to act
hero has requested TIME
hero calls $52.40, and is all in
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: tough spot in 50 nl

you need an og hh to convert... from your hh file or HEM/PT3...

fold... esp if you've been owning him imo... he's spazzing a value hand b/c 1) you've been owning him, 2) he "thinks" it looks fos/draw and you'll call light, and 3) he doesn't want you to outplay him/suck out on his AA-JJ, i.e.he'll be lost on a lot of perceived scare cards like a spade, 9, J, maybe A/K if he has JJ/QQ, etc., etc.

No reason to guess/gamble in a ~125bb pot if you can slowly bleed him out ~5-10bb at a time
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Old 09-02-2010, 01:08 AM
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Default Re: tough spot in 50 nl

Spots like this where villains take a really weird line/ make a weird bet size (like this!) etc etc : they just aren't bluffing. Just from my experiences in spots like this.

It seems more likely to me that he is trying to level you into a hero call vs. him being on deranged monkey tilt and blasting the pot w AQ or something.
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Old 09-02-2010, 05:17 AM
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If he 3bets light and you have been calling a lot I like a 4 bet pre flop here, your hand is too weak to defend imo.

As played I would fold turn.
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Old 09-02-2010, 05:35 AM
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did you minriase open from the BTN?
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Old 09-02-2010, 07:53 PM
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snap fold and its not even close.
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Old 09-02-2010, 08:39 PM
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Yup its a fold.
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Old 09-03-2010, 01:17 AM
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If he 3bets light and you have been calling a lot I like a 4 bet pre flop here, your hand is too weak to defend imo.

As played I would fold turn.
This. Plus, open to 3x from the BTN.
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:17 AM
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lol im a bitch and like to mr btn, ppl react weird to it and so ive just been testing it for a while, prob should be a standard 3x. Anyways my first thought was WTF how did i get myself in this mess .. Then i started thinking about his Hand range and how its a 100% fold i changed my mind like 4 times and decided to call because i think he thought i would probably be folding a ton to this bet so i called and he showed 6-4o obv way off the mark when it comes to what i thought he would be turning over... So i wasnt kidding this fker 3 bets light oop, this is by no means hey im calling this guys ob shoves in this spot a ton im prob folding 98% of the time. Interesting hand, but when I see the omg FOLD this is the top of his range ALWAYS in this spot, I mean really who gets aces or kings flops a set or 2 pair and plays it like this? Hes losing a shit ton of value from my draws and he knows that i dont have a high PP cause i didnt 4bet he also knows that im playing my draws like this, just didnt make sense. I just think that my percieved range was weak in his mind and he thought that his percieved range was strong. Happened to be right this time, but as recommended prob gonna fold a ton of the time.
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Old 09-03-2010, 05:50 AM
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I like button minraises against habitual 3bettors because we can defend more IP.
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