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Old 04-23-2009, 01:50 AM
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Default Jacks with 22bb

Was this right play? I think it shoulda pushed.


8.80 180 man on full tilt

Blinds 250/500 50 ante

Folded to me in late position

My stack 11,117 and I raise to 1,500

folds to BB who has 21,680 and he callls

pot is 3,650

Flop comes 9h 5c 9c

BB checks and I bet 1,875 he calls

turn comes 8c and pot is 7,400

BB checks and I push for 7,692 and he calls shows A7c for flush river is an A

Do you think it shoulda been a shove pre?
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Old 04-23-2009, 09:07 PM
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Default Re: Jacks with 22bb

C/R flop imo or shove flop
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Old 04-23-2009, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: Jacks with 22bb

I think making it 2.2-2.5x here with your entire range is best. You have a really bad stack to raise fold and you want your raising range to be decently wide in most circumstances unless there are lots of aggro players with resteal stacks behind you. Shoving pf is obviously +ev but I think it doesn't really have much of a place in a solid overall strategy here unless you know the players behind you and have a decent handle for ICM. Shoving the flop is pretty bad since we don't allow him to c/r bluff or do so some A hi float or w/e (pretty unlikely with stacks although thats no the point) and he's stacking off with all the hands he would to a smaller bet. Soooo I think your flop bet is fine and i'd prob just go ahead and stick it in on the turn like you did.
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:16 AM
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Default Re: Jacks with 22bb

what pat said
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