Raj doesn't like Grog

[thac]

Originally Posted by Birchinio

However I don't get how coaches like Thac get videos up here when his results are barely breakeven. Aren't we supposed to be being taught how to win at these games? I literally turned off the video as soon as I saw his PTR page, he might be a good coach but no way am I going to absorb information from a guy breaking even at 100nl. I don't mean any offense to the guy that's just my view.

These sites should stick strictly to the Quality > Quantity rule and not just release videos to make the homepage look pretty. (Not saying that's what the Grog videos are used for)

Birchinio,

I do see your concern, and I'm aware my PTR looks completely terrible. This has been discussed before a couple months ago in this thread. I have had a few bets on a VPP race, and so I've been playing more tables than I'm used to, more hours, etc.. I thought it'd be fun and would improve my work ethic and whatnot. It has, to an extent, but clearly the results aren't there. You can see it on PTR, and I can see it in my HM.

I'd be a little insulted too if I saw my PTR, as it looks like Leggo is hiring essentially anyone that can talk for an hour and throw around words they've heard on forums and in other videos. I can assure you that is not the case.

I don't feel that I have to do this, but I don't want Leggo members to think that they're getting the shaft when it comes to viewing my videos (which I am kind of upset that you would turn off just after looking at PTR, but that's your choice). So, here you go Birchinio and other Leggo members, here is my lifetime HM database filtered before I started this VPP super-grind:



This includes hands from when I was just starting at cash poker (starting at [and spewing lots at] nl100 switching over from MTTs/SNGs), but you guys won't be happy unless you see everything because I can pick a random date from when I started crushing, or I'm sure it would get picked apart some other way (it probably will regardless). As you can see though, there is no filter for hands, and there is every limit I've ever played, both NLH and PLO.

My recent results have been poor, I take full responsibility for that. That is not an indication of my playing ability, and I think my past and present videos are examples of that. If you find something that you think is wrong or incorrect, post it in the comments of the video and I'd be happy to discuss it. Discussing trouble spots in-depth is how we both can improve.

I don't know if this will help or hurt the situation, but I'm throwing everything out there for you guys. I have worked my ass off at this game, and I believe very strongly in my ability to not only play, but to teach this game to others. I hope you decide to watch the current video, as well as my past ones.. there's a lot of good content in them.

Regardless, I hope you enjoy your membership at Leggo and can get the most out of your time here.

Take care and good luck at the tables,
Trevor

[Hatya]

There must be some amazing intensive to be a coach and make videos, because the scrutiny you guys go thru is crazy. Constantly having players busting your balls is just not worth it IMHO. Sure people paying for a video need to know the coach is a winner, I understand this. But as i have said before a wining player does not make a great coach, and a great coach does not have to be a winning player.

Kudos to Thac for putting it all out there. I expect another 12 pages on this thread.

The bottom line is this, if you can gain value from what a coach is teaching in videos, then watch it, if not watch something else by someone else.

Not every video, or coach is going to be of value to every subscriber.

[McBarrel]

Originally Posted by thac

Birchinio,

I do see your concern, and I'm aware my PTR looks completely terrible. This has been discussed before a couple months ago in this thread. I have had a few bets on a VPP race, and so I've been playing more tables than I'm used to, more hours, etc.. I thought it'd be fun and would improve my work ethic and whatnot. It has, to an extent, but clearly the results aren't there. You can see it on PTR, and I can see it in my HM.

I'd be a little insulted too if I saw my PTR, as it looks like Leggo is hiring essentially anyone that can talk for an hour and throw around words they've heard on forums and in other videos. I can assure you that is not the case.

I don't feel that I have to do this, but I don't want Leggo members to think that they're getting the shaft when it comes to viewing my videos (which I am kind of upset that you would turn off just after looking at PTR, but that's your choice). So, here you go Birchinio and other Leggo members, here is my lifetime HM database filtered before I started this VPP super-grind:



This includes hands from when I was just starting at cash poker (starting at [and spewing lots at] nl100 switching over from MTTs/SNGs), but you guys won't be happy unless you see everything because I can pick a random date from when I started crushing, or I'm sure it would get picked apart some other way (it probably will regardless). As you can see though, there is no filter for hands, and there is every limit I've ever played, both NLH and PLO.

My recent results have been poor, I take full responsibility for that. That is not an indication of my playing ability, and I think my past and present videos are examples of that. If you find something that you think is wrong or incorrect, post it in the comments of the video and I'd be happy to discuss it. Discussing trouble spots in-depth is how we both can improve.

I don't know if this will help or hurt the situation, but I'm throwing everything out there for you guys. I have worked my ass off at this game, and I believe very strongly in my ability to not only play, but to teach this game to others. I hope you decide to watch the current video, as well as my past ones.. there's a lot of good content in them.

Regardless, I hope you enjoy your membership at Leggo and can get the most out of your time here.

Take care and good luck at the tables,
Trevor

I had the same feelings as Birchinio, but Im concinced that you are good now. This is impressive, (just 1.71bb/100 overall, but its still impressive, bc it includes all the ups and downs)

[Birchinio]

Thanks for that Thac I appreciate the honesty, in no way was I trying to personally attack you I just used your PTR as an example.

[JamesMa]

Originally Posted by Hatya

The bottom line is this, if you can gain value from what a coach is teaching in videos, then watch it, if not watch something else by someone else.

Not every video, or coach is going to be of value to every subscriber.

Pretty wise words here. I think the one thing that tilts me the most is when ppl will watch a video and then post a comment like "i stopped watching after such and such a hand". Just because a coach misplayed a hand, obviously doesnt mean that he has absolutely nothing to teach throughout the rest of a video.

Even some of the things that work well for a particular coach's game, may work out very differently for you when you play since you have different overall image/playstyles so its important to consider how implementing a certain line or w/e is going to actually affect the players around you.

[the fox is bak jak]

come bak raj!!

ps i love groghead!!!!!!!!!

[the fox is bak jak]

defend ur post raj...pls

[the fox is bak jak]

all glory to ganesha and ptr is that right raj?

[lingdog1985]

I ve been told Raj s bin grounded by his mother with no internet access, we wont see him for a while guys

[Rajmaster'sMother]

Originally Posted by lingdog1985

I ve been told Raj s bin grounded by his mother with no internet access, we wont see him for a while guys

Confirmed! I am so ashamed at some of the things he has said about respected members of the poker community across several sites. I can only apolgise on behalf of my family. Except for what he said about the small, bald, asian guy on cardrunners. Completely justified. "Asia america oh can it be?" Fuck off you arrogant twat!