Raj doesn't like Grog

[flaviusO]

Originally Posted by klink-

lol flav you are total scum, you were caught lying about your winrates in order to charge people for coaching using these forums. I have no idea why you aren't banned yet, your actions were straight up fraudulent.

Who the fuck are you to talk about me? do we know each other? do you really know my SN and where I play poker? Proove your sentences or I will sue you and leggo poker for allowing this bullshit atitude on their forum. I am not paying a subscription here to be acused by some korean nerd of things I never did and he does on 2p2!

Did I ever start any bullshit coach thread like you had on 2p2? I have never coached leggo members and never tried to make publicity for myself. I coached my brother and a few other friends and gave up of coaching because I earn much more playing poker and winning. And you know why, cuz I'm not 3betting 5% like you, "scum"! I don't need bullshiting people and taking their money cuz I can't beat the stakes anymore like you!

Originally Posted by klink-

regardless, your comments are off about 3betting % as usually, especially in a game theory sense there are probably correct ranges of stats that you should play (i.e. vpip of 60% is definitely -ev) but 5% 3bet definitely falls into the range of "more optimal" strat.

Keep being a nit and complaining about running bad while playing 10k hands a month. I never heard you complaining when you luckboxed some live tourney where a live fish owend your korean nerd ass!

I did not insulted anyone and I am called "total scum". What the fuck is this? You klinktard, if you can't have a civilized discussion then ban yourself from this thread! You're insulting and making fake accusations because you don't have arguments to proove I'm wrong.

Actually, I am pleased that only the best players on this site have the same opinion as I have about 3betting. This means you, and all the gimmicks that are vouching for 5% 3betting can't surpass a poor poker mind level.

[harangutang]

lol wtf at that post. I dunno where the cutoff is for bans/temp bans but that post is way out of line and seems kind of racist...

Flavious here is some free coaching/cliffs - 3betting 5% overall in MSNL 6max games is very likely not optimal, but can win you money. Hint: you should have similar bluff/value ratios if your 3bet % is 5% or 10%...

[JamesMa]

The thread has been restored to its natural state

[Probability]

christ, ya step out for an hour and look what happens.

idk how seriously to take this cause it's just kinda standard at this point. i am going to dish out some warnings and figure out what to do later.

klink, you have been bad.

flav, you have been worse.

the main thing we want to stay away from is racism. flav, you know this already so please refrain from bringing race into discussions on leggo.

the other thing that we should stay away from is obv this...

Proove your sentences or I will sue you and leggo poker for allowing this bullshit atitude on their forum.

idk what kinda multinational trial plans you have for us but please have mercy and just hold off for now.

[aejones]

Originally Posted by flaviusO

Who the fuck are you to talk about me? do we know each other? do you really know my SN and where I play poker? Proove your sentences or I will sue you and leggo poker for allowing this bullshit atitude on their forum. I am not paying a subscription here to be acused by some korean nerd of things I never did and he does on 2p2!

flavius, you are constantly saying that you are paying a subscription and as such deserve to be treated in some specific way. However, you are always at the middle of these attacks.

I want to clarify that as being part of Leggo we are not responsible for the things that our members say to each other. We do not have to protect you-- especially when you are virtually always at least an equal offender.

You have previously were irate that we allowed people to write racist comments about you. We've scolded, warned, and even banned them at your request. How do you expect to be taken even a little bit seriously when you start screaming racial slurs at other paying members-- people who have just as many "rights" as you do.

Klink should not have said what he said to begin this discussion without providing evidence to what he was claiming, but instead of taking a course of action that was rational, all you did was attack him personally.

You klinktard, if you can't have a civilized discussion then ban yourself from this thread! You're insulting and making fake accusations because you don't have arguments to proove I'm wrong.

Maybe we can consult Bobbo here since he seems to be the expert-- but isn't this a pretty good example of irony?

[aejones]

Finally, it should be noted that your threat to sue us is not appreciated and is almost certainly the worst offence in this thread.

[JamesMa]

I tried to sue aaron once. He filed a counter claim and I folded

[flaviusO]

Aaron, I admit I might have been out of line when putting the "korean" word into my sentences. The attack though stays exactly the same regardless. I am surprised that all this scolding actions are taken towards me because I "was racist" ONCE. I see you are only looking at this issue financial wise not taking into consideration the fact that ever since I started being active on this forum, your team of friends started calling me names like "romanian broke ass", "poor romanian guy", etc. Of course I reacted and of course I complained about it, wouldn't you? However I have never seen any of the leggo staff members taking actions like you are doing now. One of your friends is throwing the rock at me and you come to defend him. Do you expect me to smile at you and thank you very much for your kind services? When I registered on leggo poker I did it because I wanted to improve my poker knowledge. At that point I knew people are different.. they act different, they speak different languages so to say... but being somehow forced (do I have to remind you that paying a whole year subscription means accessing the forum for that entire year?) to spend my time virtually reading all kinds of fake accusations about me, my brother, my girlfriend, etc is imo way out of line.

Yes, I am sarcastic. Yes, I am too upfront. Yes, my humor is not always well tasted. But if you can find only one post where I started bashing these guys I will leave without even turning my head back. I find it very funny that all your friends think they have the right to bash whoever they want only because they are allowed/protected.

[aejones]

Originally Posted by flaviusO

Aaron, I admit I might have been out of line when putting the "korean" word into my sentences. The attack though stays exactly the same regardless. I am surprised that all this scolding actions are taken towards me because I "was racist" ONCE. I see you are only looking at this issue financial wise not taking into consideration the fact that ever since I started being active on this forum, your team of friends started calling me names like "romanian broke ass", "poor romanian guy", etc.

What?

Of course I reacted and of course I complained about it, wouldn't you? However I have never seen any of the leggo staff members taking actions like you are doing now. One of your friends is throwing the rock at me and you come to defend him. Do you expect me to smile at you and thank you very much for your kind services? When I registered on leggo poker I did it because I wanted to improve my poker knowledge. At that point I knew people are different.. they act different, they speak different languages so to say... but being somehow forced (do I have to remind you that paying a whole year subscription means accessing the forum for that entire year?) to spend my time virtually reading all kinds of fake accusations about me, my brother, my girlfriend, etc is imo way out of line.

Yes, I am sarcastic. Yes, I am too upfront. Yes, my humor is not always well tasted. But if you can find only one post where I started bashing these guys I will leave without even turning my head back. I find it very funny that all your friends think they have the right to bash whoever they want only because they are allowed/protected.

I'm not sure I understand what you're talking about. FWIW, I have never had any interactions with Klink. I think there is a 25% chance or so that I met him this summer, but there is a smaller chance that I could pick him out of a lineup. I can't imagine we have ever PM'ed each other, nor do we have contact info for each other. My entire "relationship" with him is Probability telling me that he was being a bit offensive on the forums or something a long time ago and me telling him to do whatever he thought was right (in this case I think he de-modded him).

It doesn't make it okay for you to bash people once they say something about you. Just because someone else started it (usually in a MUCH less aggressive way than you finish it), doesn't give you the right to do the exact same thing to them (racial slurrs, talkin' about their mothers, etc.).

[baba]

All this hate makes me sad. Having said that.....

Ive been thinking of suing leggo too for all those 'crazy euro's' slurs i hear in videos. (However I'll accept an out of court settlement involving tonnes of free coaching with AeJones.....)