0% 3B game theory

[koboosh]

If GTO is about making your opponent indifferent in reacting to your actions on every single street what exactly would be the point of 3Betting pre-flop?

In position one could choose to do so as playing bigger pots is generally more +EV, but I don't see why it would be OOP.

If your 3Betting a balanced range so that your opponent is theoretically indifferent to call/fold/4B then why would you even bother 3B in the first place? Since now you have two different ranges to balance (a flatting range and a 3B range),

I've been thinking about this a lot because it relates to when playing deep and whether it can be more +EV to flat and play differently in single raised pots vs 3B and play bigger pots OOP..

[guitarizt]

That's why deep I think it's more correct to flat your entire range than to 3-bet. I hate 3-betting someone with a clue oop 300+bb deep. I don't think anyone else does this though fwiw.

[apostadorfurtivo]

Yes I think you can play a strategy with no 3bets but for sure will not be optimal in most table conditions. In some situations could be a good way to play, example against a good player that has position on us and we are deep. I remember watching a video a long time ago where the coach was saying that with more than 200bbs in the blinds facing a raise from a guy like durrrr will never 3bet even with AA because durrrr plays so well IP that so deep will be a nightmare to play a 3bet pot oop. But this doesn't happen very often at least in the games I play. In poker more important than having a system it's understand the different conditions of each situation and adapt in order to maximize our winnings. That being said I belive in most situations you have more to win by having a 3betting range istead of always flatting.

[koboosh]

so then 3Betting is actually an exploitative move in the game and there is no real point looking to balance a 3B range perfectly. You 3B because you think your opponent (and the whole player pool in general ) will play worse in re-raised pots then in single raised pots. Otherwise I just don't see the point.

[RedJoker]

Originally Posted by koboosh

If GTO is about making your opponent indifferent in reacting to your actions on every single street what exactly would be the point of 3Betting pre-flop?

It's not, they can't be indifferent with every single hand, there's only a couple of hands that they'll actually be indifferent with.

Originally Posted by koboosh

If your 3Betting a balanced range so that your opponent is theoretically indifferent to call/fold/4B then why would you even bother 3B in the first place?

It's part of a balanced range because it's more +EV to have a 3betting range than to not have one. If you have a subset of hands that have a higher expectation from 3betting, say { AK, JJ+ }, then you'll want to have a 3betting range and balance it with 3bet bluffs.