Do you raise any suited boardways UTG?

[Kitsune101]

Just taking a step back to analyze my poker game. Raising suited boardways from any position seem to have been a standard for me for a very long time.

This was probably instill into my game after watching coaching videos. however, those are videos from a very long time ago, 2 years at least.

Was wondering how many players still raise any suited boardways EP and what kind of results do you have?

I am almost breaking even at 100NL with those hands EP and losing a significant amount at 200NL (tt by itself prove the difficulty difference at 100NL vs 200NL on stars)

[Kitsune101]

This is for 6-max btw.

[JamesMa]

I think broadway suited cards are standard to always open on pretty much any table. I think lower SCs with one gap, two gap, usually depend on the table conditions.

If you're bleeding money I think it is very likely to do w/ your postflop play

[fuser1986]

James what particular table conditions would you say opening sc's, gappers and two gappers be ok?

[Kitsune101]

Originally Posted by JamesMa

I think broadway suited cards are standard to always open on pretty much any table. I think lower SCs with one gap, two gap, usually depend on the table conditions.

If you're bleeding money I think it is very likely to do w/ your postflop play

That was what I thought too, that it is standard. But why must it be a standard?

Bad things about suited broadways UTG:
It does get dominated alot when other regulars call behind. And you are OOP alot to the flop.

Good things about suited broadways:
Does really well vs small pp and have more barreling options (with flush/str draws or backdoors when deciding to cbet the flop)

I think regulars are less likely to make a mistake with small PP rather than we make a mistake when dominated.

Not saying that raising suited broadways UTG are unprofitable, but just a thought.

What is your post-flop strategy with these hands? How often do you cbet and barrel?

[JamesMa]

Originally Posted by fuser1986

James what particular table conditions would you say opening sc's, gappers and two gappers be ok?

Generally the more aggressive a table is and unwilling to fold, the tighter a range you are going to want to have since you're going to want to make strong pairs that you can value bet since bluffing equity isn't as high. On a table where you're getting frequently 3bet, raised postflop or called down by marginal pairs, it's a lot more difficult to be able to turn a profit by opening something like SCs and gappers from any position.

[JamesMa]

Originally Posted by Kitsune101

That was what I thought too, that it is standard. But why must it be a standard?

Bad things about suited broadways UTG:
It does get dominated alot when other regulars call behind. And you are OOP alot to the flop.

Good things about suited broadways:
Does really well vs small pp and have more barreling options (with flush/str draws or backdoors when deciding to cbet the flop)

I think regulars are less likely to make a mistake with small PP rather than we make a mistake when dominated.

Not saying that raising suited broadways UTG are unprofitable, but just a thought.

What is your post-flop strategy with these hands? How often do you cbet and barrel?

It's standard because they're pretty strong hands and play well in most typical table situations these days. if you aren't raising suited broadways then I assume you're just raising a very tight range that is generally less than optimal on most tables in today's games.

[Kitsune101]

Screen shot of my suited boardways in EP. The sample is rather small even after 180k hands at 200NL. Just glancing at it, I think I might be:

1. Getting to showdown too often thus losing alot at showdown
2. Being too aggressive post-flop?

Originally Posted by JamesMa

It's standard because they're pretty strong hands and play well in most typical table situations these days. if you aren't raising suited broadways then I assume you're just raising a very tight range that is generally less than optimal on most tables in today's games.

I agree, but I was wondering whether I could replace suited boardways with suited connectors because I am less likely to be dominated.

[JamesMa]

I like usually raising suited connectors from EP as well.... I think you're worried a lot about being dominated which usually isn't the case. I'm also guessing you're being a bit results oriented, but I wouldn't worry about it without a larger sample. Last year I lost $ with KQ from EP, but made money with QJ and KJ but obviously KQ should play way better than the latter.

Looking at your turn/river cbet success, it seems like ppl arent folding so I would just tighten up your range for barrelling. I'd answer your question about postflop play but it would probably end up becoming a book that you'd have to buy lol... I'd start w/ just posting hands in the forums and getting feedback from other members

[Kitsune101]

@JamesMa: lol. ok. thx