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03-16-2008, 01:18 PM
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| |  question on LAG style.
I wonder if is standard for lag players to lose in non-showdown spots in the long run and obviusly win a lot at showdown. i make this questions becouse in my first 6k hands at 50nl i'm running at 9bb/100 (my very first hand at cash in my life,obv running like clayton on his vids but thx leggo, the 30$ i spend here is the best investemnt of my life so far!!!) and I'm losing somewhat like 1.5bb/100 in non-showdawn spots, sure this is high becouse my game is still too spewy, but wondering if a good lag players win in this spots too!! |
03-16-2008, 01:26 PM
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| | | if i remember correctly playing LAG you will lose on showdowns more than winning on nonshowdowns or sth |
03-19-2008, 09:05 AM
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| | | actually, it should be the opposite - win in non showdown pots, lose in showdown pots
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03-19-2008, 09:37 AM
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by BobboFitos  actually, it should be the opposite - win in non showdown pots, lose in showdown pots | lol really? hehe my thought are totally wrong if so.. but why?
i c-bet a lot.. 2 barrel ecc, lose money when i give up on river or turn, but they paid me off huge when i have big hands. obviusly just starded with cash, so many leak to improve... |
03-19-2008, 10:38 AM
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| | | Its not that you should be loosing in showdowns is that your % will be lower than if you played TAG. Cause the quality of hands you are playing are not as good and you are going to value bet thiner when for example they got you dominated. For a good TAG it is standard to be looking for a 50% won at showdown, but something like 40-45% on won when see flop. A good LAG would have close to 50% won when see flop and less than 50% in showdowns, 48% in Won at showdown is pretty good for a LAG. |
03-27-2008, 10:53 PM
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| | | it's the opposite |
03-29-2008, 02:23 PM
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| | | A good goal to set for yourself would be to break even in unshown pots. This is extremely difficult, but the closer you dome to breaking even, the larger your win rate. (showndown hands play themselves) |
04-02-2008, 07:15 PM
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| | | you prob arent playing lag at all really, a true lag will breakevenish in showdown pots and win a ton w/o showdown. |
04-03-2008, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rsxpunk you prob arent playing lag at all really, a true lag will breakevenish in showdown pots and win a ton w/o showdown. | from what you deduce that i'm not playng lag? from what i've said seems like i'm plyng tooo lag, and too spewy in my opinion. |
04-03-2008, 10:28 AM
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| | | Seems like (just from your posts) you're just blindly firing 2-3 barrels into people. This isn't true LAG, this is more LAGtard and will get you to lose money in non-showdown pots just because you won't win enough pots on average to make up for all the money you're putting in on every other hand. Balance is key. |  | | |
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