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Old 06-16-2008, 08:10 PM
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Oh wow, ship it, it's up already! Thought it would be out in a few days. Comments go here!
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:16 PM
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Nice random rounders quote ;)
Would love to hear more about the reverse blind HU strategy :)
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:34 PM
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Hey Rob,
I would love to hear more on your theory of the reverse blinds HU play.
(For example, you said you limp or openfold alot more. Would you for example also be openfolding tier 3 hands or only tier 4 (and worse) hands. And how much does your postflop play change because of the preflop play? And do you ever openraise the SB? or always limp-call/limp-fold/limp-raise? and so much more )
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Old 06-16-2008, 09:34 PM
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Hey Rob,
I would love to hear more on your theory of the reverse blinds HU play.
(For example, you said you limp or openfold alot more. Would you for example also be openfolding tier 3 hands or only tier 4 (and worse) hands. And how much does your postflop play change because of the preflop play? And do you ever openraise the SB? or always limp-call/limp-fold/limp-raise? and so much more )
I wouldnt open fold tier 3 or tier 4 until the dynamic of raising limps have been established, then i am for sure open mucking tier 4, and likely limping tier 3+, w/ a reverse nut air ratio for limpraising. (in a way forcing the blinds back to a spot of the conventional blind structure)

the small grouping therefore of hands im not "3betting" (really L/R) for value/bluff are the ones im going to limp/call.

so, the "control" of the match in this case is both the frequency and size of villains BB + button raise.

i don't think open raising the sb is an effective strategy in the longterm, but in the short term it's more optimal (someone asked me why i don't employ this in blind war, and it's much the same). basically, picking it up pre is more important than establishing the dynamic of just "how often opponent should fold".

it's important that you can't play ATC in the reverse spot OOP, obviously, and the easiest time to spot a fishy opponent is one that is open raising, open limping, or any combination, that is >50% VPIP. (In fact, >40% is likely incorrect)

In general this blind structure leads to less action which makes it less overall appealing good player vs good player, but makes it possible to DESTROY a bad player much easier. Worth noting many good players play the structure in such a way that they turn into a bad player, as well.

In position, preflop is dictated by your opponent, obviously, but typically I would auto raise limps 100% (until a specific l/r dynamic has been established, then we can go a different route - similar to getting 3bet when they're OOP but this time you have the option of just seeing a flop) and if an opponent raises I would not fold my hand, i would either 3bet or call, and on the flop the way you approach it is the same way if you're raising 100% of hands, ignore the fact they have impetus, and pretend they're just donking into you alot. This way the hand range of when they open raise (perhaps top 30-40% of hands) vs your hand range (perhaps 100%) should make the adjustments "easy" for you.
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Old 06-16-2008, 10:30 PM
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lol party poker, but seriously good video
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Thanks for more insight into the HU
I do keep having the same problems you seem to have, which is that when I'm playing HU the table seems to fill up quite fast (this is 400nl though), and there are no HU tables yet. So unfortunately I have little chance to practice it. I guess I got to find another site which has this structure.

About what you said about SB vs BB play is exactly what I first thought off when you said you were going to be limping alot in the SB (as in why don't you do it in 6max), something I think almost no regular does in a 6max game in blindbattles. But let's say a game is 3-(or 4-)handed, would you ever consider switching to a SB-limp strategy?

Anyway liked the video alot and was fun to see a video on Party again
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Thanks for more insight into the HU
I do keep having the same problems you seem to have, which is that when I'm playing HU the table seems to fill up quite fast (this is 400nl though), and there are no HU tables yet. So unfortunately I have little chance to practice it. I guess I got to find another site which has this structure.

About what you said about SB vs BB play is exactly what I first thought off when you said you were going to be limping alot in the SB (as in why don't you do it in 6max), something I think almost no regular does in a 6max game in blindbattles. But let's say a game is 3-(or 4-)handed, would you ever consider switching to a SB-limp strategy?

Anyway liked the video alot and was fun to see a video on Party again
Robin - glad you liked it =)

I would certainly consider switching it up playing 3handed or so. In fact, live, I do occasionally revert to this strategy (when deep/SH/there is going to be more 'meta' elements that allow me to deviate from my usual 3x bb open)
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:47 PM
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treat of the week!
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:24 AM
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Great video Bobbo! I love your 6max videos. Keep them coming!
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Old 06-17-2008, 06:18 AM
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go for 6 max on Party 1k please :)
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