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Old 02-02-2010, 01:23 PM
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Default PLO50: Few hands from begginer ;)

Hey, guys! I just have started to play PLO.. I'm reading my first book and I also looked few videos and this is one of my first sessions. Am I write in those hands?

1. Party, $0.25/$0.50 PL Omaha Cash Game, 6 Players
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BB: $63.85
UTG: $51.20
Hero (MP): $51.50
CO: $54.75
BTN: $95.75
SB: $52.15

Pre-Flop: Q Q 4 4 dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, CO raises to $2.50, 3 folds, UTG calls $2, Hero calls $2

// Is it Ok to limp after the first limper or I need to raise such a hand?

Flop: ($8.25) K 6 4 (3 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5, CO folds, UTG raises to $22.85, Hero ?

// Is it ok to push here? I have troubles only vs. KKxx cc, vs. all other hands I have 30%+...

2. Party, $0.25/$0.50 PL Omaha Cash Game, 6 Players
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CO: $89.85
Hero (BTN): $63.25
SB: $21
BB: $49.50
UTG: $58.90
MP: $30.65

Pre-Flop: 5 5 Q K dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO folds, Hero calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($2) 5 7 K (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP bets $1.90, Hero raises to $7.50, 2 folds, MP raises to $24.40, Hero raises to $62.75 and is All-In, MP calls $5.75 and is All-In

// Is everything allright here? I raise this flop coz he has 50bb only, also I am beating AAxx, Kxxx, two pairs, straight draw hands and I have blocker to his KKxx, so he only have 1 combo of such a hand..

Thanks for your help, guys!
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Old 02-02-2010, 01:47 PM
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Default Re: PLO50: Few hands from begginer ;)

Hand one is easy.

Raise preflop over the limper. You smashed the flop and get your money in.

Hand two is easy as well. This is an awful hand to play preflop. It also doesn't play well multiway in limped pots either since it won't hit nut hands and draws so just muck this pre...it's garbage.

Once you hit the set vs the short stack, your not folding this. The raise is fine and once he ships he can easily have a lot of stuff...some of it will be 77xx and other times it will be K7 and wraps and pair + wraps and two pair plus straight draws and other random junk. His stack is too short for you to think about raise/folding with a set and a blocker.
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: PLO50: Few hands from begginer ;)

Hand 1 get the money in ASAP, we've smashed this flop to bits.

Hand 2 i dislike preflop, once we've seen the flop we're getting the money in though.
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Old 02-02-2010, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: PLO50: Few hands from begginer ;)

both hands are fine to stackoff in those spots.
both hands are not good to limp - first you should raise 100%, second you should fold preflop
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Old 02-02-2010, 08:06 PM
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I raise the first...as played GET ER IN!

2nd hand fold pf imo...as played gotta get it in
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Old 02-03-2010, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: PLO50: Few hands from begginer ;)

Second hand, rule out AA. Or, if he showed AA.. Give me his name.
First hand, be happy about getting it in.
Second hand, im not as thrilled. Board is dry, and there was no action preflop to suggest that he could be jamming a wrap. If i raised over x limpers with middling rundown cards, i might jam a flop like this to get fold equity out of two pair- with a wrap draw, but in a limped pot its a standard call(With a wrap draw). Im interested to see results of second hand, cause im willing to bet you lost it. As played, gotta get it, but i feel like hes check calling wrap draws multiway oop.
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Old 02-04-2010, 05:34 AM
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Second hand, rule out AA. Or, if he showed AA.. Give me his name.
First hand, be happy about getting it in.
Second hand, im not as thrilled. Board is dry, and there was no action preflop to suggest that he could be jamming a wrap. If i raised over x limpers with middling rundown cards, i might jam a flop like this to get fold equity out of two pair- with a wrap draw, but in a limped pot its a standard call(With a wrap draw). Im interested to see results of second hand, cause im willing to bet you lost it. As played, gotta get it, but i feel like hes check calling wrap draws multiway oop.
Hello In 2nd he showed KKxx, so, I lost it =(
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Old 02-07-2010, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: PLO50: Few hands from begginer ;)

Im sorry to hear that. As much as i can sit there and tell myself that im crushed, im still getting it in. However, im going to have a serious chat about ratholing micro games with him afterward. Angry words will be used. The other reason that this is a tough spot is that so many short stackers have no concept of hand ranges themselves, and make their stackoff range uber light. As we call, we know he has KKxx, but at the same time, ive seen shortstackers get it in here with bottom two, so over the long run against a 50bb player, i think this is a winning call especially given the odds you have given yourself.
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